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15x8 wheel fitment, which offset?

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Hey guys, I'm picking up a set of 15x8 diamond racing rims but I'm unsure on which offset to go with.

The available offsets are(all 15x8):
+12
0
-12
-25
-38
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-51
-64
-76
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I haven't ran wheels this wide before and I'm unsure about what offset would be the best as far as no rubbing on suspension components. The 15" rim will obviously clear stock brakes so that's not a problem. The tires I'd like to run would be between 205-50r15 and 225-50r15 but that's not set in stone although I won't be running mad stretched tires if I can help it.

I'm not completely against using spacers but I'd prefer not to run any too large. My guess would be that the best offset for this application would be 0 or +12 but honestly I don't know, hoping for some input from folks like Sam and Aaron who have set up 8" wide rims before.
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Re: 15x8 wheel fitment, which offset?

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My wheels are 15x7.5 with a +42 and I am running 225/50/15's and the fronts rub my coilovers. I have 10mm spacers all the way around. I would say the +25's should be about perfect. I would think that the 0 would put the rim outside the fender quite a bit. I think somewhere around 30 would be ideal with an 8" rim but +25 should be just as good. You will have to roll your fenders. May even have to flair them just a tad depending on your ride height.

Edit: Oh whoops, I see you had -25.... that is crazy, you going for the Hella Flush look? If so 0 or +12 would be the way to go. Anything more you will need curb feelers, dingle ball tassels, and a boat flake metallic paint job to make it look appropriate.
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Go with the +12's add a little camber and get a fender roller. :mrgreen:

This is a 16x8 with an et of +10 and d2's cambered in. (there's a slot where you can adjust camber where the hub bolts to the coilovers) The tires were a 205 as well.
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15's will never get you hellaflush on an mx-3 unless you where about -160mm ride height.

+12 with 195/45 tyre is not a big stretch on a 8J tbh plus they are probably cheaper so you can afford a more expensive better tyre ;)
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Josh wrote:My wheels are 15x7.5 with a +42 and I am running 225/50/15's and the fronts rub my coilovers. I have 10mm spacers all the way around. I would say the +25's should be about perfect. I would think that the 0 would put the rim outside the fender quite a bit. I think somewhere around 30 would be ideal with an 8" rim but +25 should be just as good. You will have to roll your fenders. May even have to flair them just a tad depending on your ride height.

Edit: Oh whoops, I see you had -25.... that is crazy, you going for the Hella Flush look? If so 0 or +12 would be the way to go. Anything more you will need curb feelers, dingle ball tassels, and a boat flake metallic paint job to make it look appropriate.
I'd just like some wider rims and these are the diamond racing steelies which I absolutely adore. Bigass steelies FTW haha. Rolling fenders isn't a problem for me, got access to a proper roller too. Not the end of the world if they stick out from the fenders(pretty sure thats not illegal here like across the pond). And you've got the Ksport coilovers right?
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Re: 15x8 wheel fitment, which offset?

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AaronTietje wrote:Go with the +12's add a little camber and get a fender roller. :mrgreen:

This is a 16x8 with an et of +10 and d2's cambered in. (there's a slot where you can adjust camber where the hub bolts to the coilovers) The tires were a 205 as well.]
No rub? Did you run any spacers at all? And with the d2s cambered in do you how much they affect camber? I've been leaning more and more towards coilovers these days....
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youdirtyfox wrote:15's will never get you hellaflush on an mx-3 unless you where about -160mm ride height.

+12 with 195/45 tyre is not a big stretch on a 8J tbh plus they are probably cheaper so you can afford a more expensive better tyre ;)
I think you're right, I've seen 175/50s over one of these and those were stretched but 195 is only like 10mm off. What was the offset you we're running on those wheels you had before the 16s you have right now? I think what I'm getting is a bit comparable to that.


Seems like I"ll have to ditch my Tokico blue + Intrax springs for these wheels either way though, gonna need full coils.
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+15 Rob. I am not running any negative camber either just lots of low, clearance is good on the front with rolled and flared arches and rear arch just lick's the tire lettering with a roll.
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youdirtyfox wrote:+15 Rob. I am not running any negative camber either just lots of low, clearance is good on the front with rolled and flared arches and rear arch just lick's the tire lettering with a roll.
I need to find a wheel around that size and offset I think and just try a test fit, I don't wanna buy them and go through the effort mounting the tires and have them not fit. Did you ever measure how much your rolled the fenders when you installed these? Or did you just roll and test fit?
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I did not roll them, a company called archenemy did it however I did watch Him operate and they rolled the arch inner lip so instead of this 'L' it is now 'U' but as tight up against itself as possible so the paint doesn't crack, although there is some paint fracture it isn't bad at all. The fronts being so thin naturally flared themselves as the roller was pulled outward to do the final strokes.
The rears being double layer did not move out at all really, but He did say if I needed more clearance in the rears He could probably squeeze another 5-10mm out of it.

Having seen it done its not something I would feel confident doing and making a neat job out of without plenty of parctice, as there are a few factors to take in like the swage line at the rear and also any body imperfections/dents can make a big difference as to how the arch will roll. Obviously not trying to put you off as many folks do it themselves, even with baseball bats running round the tire.

You don't need to roll all the way round either, if you imagine a clock face its about from 10-3 that's gets done.

+12 with 195/45 or 50 will fit no problem, some tires stretch different to others though, like Falken's will give a slightly bigger stretch than Toyo T1Rs for instance as the Toyo has the stiffer sidewall and also rim protection. Diamonds will look pretty cool I would imagine with the right drop of course, you will have about a one finger arch gap if you go -100mm with that combo.

195/50 8J
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Re: 15x8 wheel fitment, which offset?

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I have the AST coilovers, But I am running a +42 with 225/50's. That is pretty big for the rim. I had to roll the fenders, I am running a -2 deg camber in front also. If you run a crazy offset like Sam and Aaron you will need to narrow the tire like a 195 or 205 as they suggested.
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Re: 15x8 wheel fitment, which offset?

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Thanks for the pictures Sam, helps clear it up. I'm pretty good friends with a guy who works at a local "performance" shop who's done a lot of fender rolling, especially for bigger wheels with the new stance trend going and I've seen his work and he's pretty good at it so I've got faith.

The plan was to go with Falkens so thats nice to hear how that would work, I might pull the trigger next week and order a set then. Fit the wheel and lift it onto the hoist and do suspension travel measurements, I'll look out for the 10-3 you mentioned. Thanks a lot for the info, I'm looking forward to this.
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