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Front brake upgrade dilemma

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Hi Guys,

I'm a bit in a dilemma.
I've got a set of 323f v6 spindles

Than I purchased the calipers/brackets from a 1st gen mx6 (european 626)
Also got a set of Millenia calipers/brackets

The millenia brackets are grinded to fit the 323 v6 spindles (wasn't that bad to do).

Now for the dilemma:
Option 1: Keep the Millenia brakes, drill out my 323 v6 spindle to accept the bolt. (+: no more spending money on brakes -: drill out the hole)
Option 2: Throw away the millenia brakes, buy another set of Subaru brakes, and use the subaru/mx6 combo. (+: no drilled/grinded stuff -: buy more stuff, through away millenia's)
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Personally, I am of the mindset that building it with your own 2 hands feels better; If it saves money, doubly so.

If you decide to go with the Suby brakes, I'll take those Millis for a drunken song, silly dance, and shipping to 97402! :lol:
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MrMazda92 wrote: I'll take those Millis for a drunken song, silly dance, and shipping to 97402! :lol:
I just happen to have a compliation of some examples of your dancing. Your the one in the white shirts right? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdeXCz1uBLc
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For myself I always prefer when I can just bolt parts together and they fit like they're supposed to. The Subaru calipers with the 626 brackets and the Subaru slider pins bolt perfectly to the 323F spindles and only require a single washer to center the caliper on the stock rotor.

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Dan, I get a BSOD every time I go to youtube, so I'll have to assume it's not me! :lol:
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Okay, lets see how good a deal I can get on those Subaru brakes.

If i can get them for a decent deal you can have the millenia's MzMazda but they are heavy (don't know if shipping is worth it)


How about brake pads ?
There is the availability of OEM (or better) brake pads for a first gen mx6 or a millenia.
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Wow, thanks! :shock: I was semi-teasing about that, but is there anything state-side you're looking for? I don't have a ton of wrecking yards nearby unfortunately, but I can travel.
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Kid Hauler:
'08 Suburban LT 4WD - TVS 1900 Blower, LF SC Cam, headers, AFM delete, true 5" lift, 33x12s, 523 WHP

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wytbishop wrote: a single washer to center the caliper on the stock rotor.

It's perfect. I like perfect.
I've read on CP that you can also use a mx5 rotor 270mm, instead of our stock 257mm.
Have you tried this ?
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^^ Miata brakes, are those the 06' and up then that you are talking about?

What I would like to see is someone do a step by step FAQ with pictures :) *wishful thinking*
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This is from ClubProtoge
first the parts for option 1 ( No cutting of stuff)

BA V6 hubs complete
BG 4 cly 4 stud wheel bearings and 4 stud centers x 2
Rotors; Your choice of either Slotted/drilled BG GTX/ Astina GT rotors or NB8 MX5/Miata rotors (270mm), * Pads overlap 1mm when using stock 257mm rotors
Calipers; BJ series wagon Subaru Legacy GT turbo (2pot)
Brake brackets; Mazda GD 626/TX5/Probe
Washers of 2-3mm , Cyl head bolt washers work well (i'll explain later)
Brake pads; as above, but use some Bendix DB1114 or something better than OEM
Brake lines; your choice of either OEM/Braided etc for BG models * Careful, there are two types ive found, a large and a small Neck Banjo head, i tested using the a split small neck type, all ok, but my car was fitted with a large neck banjo bolt. Large neck requires filling down part of the caliper, 5 mins extra

First Push out the V6 5 stud Center, push in the 4 stud center
Paint/bling up the calipers from the Subi/Mazda combo
So this is the front, and possible with Mx4 270mm rotors ?
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OK I see what you're referring to. I never tried fitting a miata rotor with my BA spindles. With the combination of parts and stock MX-3 rotors the rotor does not reach out all the way to the outer edge of the pad. It is about 1mm short. With 270mm rotors the rotor will stick out past the top of the pad by about 5-6mm I think, but they might fit. There isn't going to be any braking advantage if the pad is not at the outer edge of the rotor.
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Josh wrote:^^ Miata brakes, are those the 06' and up then that you are talking about?

What I would like to see is someone do a step by step FAQ with pictures :) *wishful thinking*
Josh if you look through my worklog I do have some good information about 06' MSP Miata rear brake upgrade (pg8) and the BA V6/Subaru front brake upgrade (pg16).
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