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It's been discussed(and even came to fruition long ago), and I've seen a lot of interest on Probetalk mostly. I'm wondering if anybody HERE would be interested, and willing, to get in on a potential bulk buy somewhere down the road.
I'm not at all ready to pitch the idea to the Admins, as I'm mostly curious if anybody would actually consider this.
If the idea comes to fruition in the next 2 years, I will buy 2 Cranks myself. The more people we get involved, the cheaper this would become.
If you are interested in the idea of "stroking" an engine, yet haven't the slightest clue what that means, then I recommend the following read:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stroker_Kit
Yeah, it's Wikipedia... so it's not exactly comprehensive. It should still give you the basic concept.
Here's another link, which shows one of many potential companies to build the crank through... and possibly other things as well. Personally, I think high CR. pistons, light rods, and a stroker crank are some worthy things to invest in... Even if it means saving for them.
http://www.flatlander-ipp.nl/custom-cranks.shtml
We all know that buying in bulk saves money, so combining the orders would certainly make it more feasible for most of us.
This would definitely be a big ticket purchase, for anybody involved. I personally would need at least 6 months to save up for this, if not longer.
If you have anything to add, or would like to express interest, please do so.
I'm not at all ready to pitch the idea to the Admins, as I'm mostly curious if anybody would actually consider this.
If the idea comes to fruition in the next 2 years, I will buy 2 Cranks myself. The more people we get involved, the cheaper this would become.
If you are interested in the idea of "stroking" an engine, yet haven't the slightest clue what that means, then I recommend the following read:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stroker_Kit
Yeah, it's Wikipedia... so it's not exactly comprehensive. It should still give you the basic concept.
Here's another link, which shows one of many potential companies to build the crank through... and possibly other things as well. Personally, I think high CR. pistons, light rods, and a stroker crank are some worthy things to invest in... Even if it means saving for them.
http://www.flatlander-ipp.nl/custom-cranks.shtml
We all know that buying in bulk saves money, so combining the orders would certainly make it more feasible for most of us.
This would definitely be a big ticket purchase, for anybody involved. I personally would need at least 6 months to save up for this, if not longer.
If you have anything to add, or would like to express interest, please do so.
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Kid Hauler:
'08 Suburban LT 4WD - TVS 1900 Blower, LF SC Cam, headers, AFM delete, true 5" lift, 33x12s, 523 WHP
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Re: [GI] KL Stroker Crankshaft & maybe more?
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Re: [GI] KL Stroker Crankshaft & maybe more?

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Kid Hauler:
'08 Suburban LT 4WD - TVS 1900 Blower, LF SC Cam, headers, AFM delete, true 5" lift, 33x12s, 523 WHP
First Love:
'92 GS 5 spd - Straightneck KL/67mm TB, MegaSquirt/Coilpacks, 5 lugs/Speed6 brakes/FD wheels, wiretuck, coilovers, headers, AEM WB, Borla
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Kid Hauler:
'08 Suburban LT 4WD - TVS 1900 Blower, LF SC Cam, headers, AFM delete, true 5" lift, 33x12s, 523 WHP
First Love:
'92 GS 5 spd - Straightneck KL/67mm TB, MegaSquirt/Coilpacks, 5 lugs/Speed6 brakes/FD wheels, wiretuck, coilovers, headers, AEM WB, Borla
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Re: [GI] KL Stroker Crankshaft & maybe more?
Personally I wouldn't mess with stroking our engine.
Nitrated crank for the first and most important reason.
The std crank can stand 800hp, why mess with it ?
Please put a lot of research into stroking a kl. You don't want to run into overheating issues.
Nitrated crank for the first and most important reason.
The std crank can stand 800hp, why mess with it ?
Please put a lot of research into stroking a kl. You don't want to run into overheating issues.
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Re: [GI] KL Stroker Crankshaft & maybe more?
For my own builds, cooling is literally at the top of my list. There are few things more important, especially with what I'm attempting.
I have always been of the belief that over-building something has its benefits, yet I also believe in experimentation and progress through trial and error. I've found such vague and sporadic information on KL strokers, that the idea seems almost foreign. Honestly, I mainly posted this to see if the interest was there. Apparently, it's not; so on to other things.
I have always been of the belief that over-building something has its benefits, yet I also believe in experimentation and progress through trial and error. I've found such vague and sporadic information on KL strokers, that the idea seems almost foreign. Honestly, I mainly posted this to see if the interest was there. Apparently, it's not; so on to other things.
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'12 Challenger R/T + STP - Magnuson 2650 blower (7 PSI), Skip-Shift/CDV deleted, StopTech ST60 front brakes, Hellcat rear Cradle/Brakes, 2 piece DS. 6 speed, 3.9 LSD, 18" wheels - 510 WHP
Kid Hauler:
'08 Suburban LT 4WD - TVS 1900 Blower, LF SC Cam, headers, AFM delete, true 5" lift, 33x12s, 523 WHP
First Love:
'92 GS 5 spd - Straightneck KL/67mm TB, MegaSquirt/Coilpacks, 5 lugs/Speed6 brakes/FD wheels, wiretuck, coilovers, headers, AEM WB, Borla
Deleted: VAF/Power Steering/Air Conditioning/EGR/ABS/Auto Seatbelts/etc
'12 Challenger R/T + STP - Magnuson 2650 blower (7 PSI), Skip-Shift/CDV deleted, StopTech ST60 front brakes, Hellcat rear Cradle/Brakes, 2 piece DS. 6 speed, 3.9 LSD, 18" wheels - 510 WHP
Kid Hauler:
'08 Suburban LT 4WD - TVS 1900 Blower, LF SC Cam, headers, AFM delete, true 5" lift, 33x12s, 523 WHP
First Love:
'92 GS 5 spd - Straightneck KL/67mm TB, MegaSquirt/Coilpacks, 5 lugs/Speed6 brakes/FD wheels, wiretuck, coilovers, headers, AEM WB, Borla
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Re: [GI] KL Stroker Crankshaft & maybe more?
WHy would stroking cause overheating issues? Boring out does, but never heard of stroking a motor causing that...WhiteFinish wrote:The std crank can stand 800hp, why mess with it ?
Please put a lot of research into stroking a kl. You don't want to run into overheating issues.
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Re: [GI] KL Stroker Crankshaft & maybe more?
Yes, you are correct Nd4SpdSe
I was a little bit further in my mind to people who have used this kind of kits.
Usually they needed .50 or .60 overbore...which leads to overheating issues.
But again; do good research for this stuff
I was a little bit further in my mind to people who have used this kind of kits.
Usually they needed .50 or .60 overbore...which leads to overheating issues.
But again; do good research for this stuff

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Re: [GI] KL Stroker Crankshaft & maybe more?
I know a guy who has a stroked KL, a 2.7L. He's building it with the biggest turbo I've seen in a car, aiming for 600 WHP. He's using small block rods and either Honda or Ford pistons, 10:1.
I know know him, not internet know him, he lives an hour from me.
I know know him, not internet know him, he lives an hour from me.
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Re: [GI] KL Stroker Crankshaft & maybe more?
I talked with the people at Paeco a few years ago about their stage 2 engine and they they're real nice, but when I started asking him questions about what I would have to do with engine management and fuel mapping I got the impression that he thought I was speaking another language. I asked him if the numbers they publish are proven and he said they'd never actually built a KL engine, it's all theoretical. That's about when I opted out.
I also found when researching that build that they have a very poor reputation on the net for extremely long delivery times even for things like pistons and head work and stuff.
I also found when researching that build that they have a very poor reputation on the net for extremely long delivery times even for things like pistons and head work and stuff.
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Re: [GI] KL Stroker Crankshaft & maybe more?
That sounds like online sales to me... So much generic, untested stuff out there.
Ryan,
Any chance you could snag some pictures of the short block for me?
Ryan,
Any chance you could snag some pictures of the short block for me?
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Kid Hauler:
'08 Suburban LT 4WD - TVS 1900 Blower, LF SC Cam, headers, AFM delete, true 5" lift, 33x12s, 523 WHP
First Love:
'92 GS 5 spd - Straightneck KL/67mm TB, MegaSquirt/Coilpacks, 5 lugs/Speed6 brakes/FD wheels, wiretuck, coilovers, headers, AEM WB, Borla
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'12 Challenger R/T + STP - Magnuson 2650 blower (7 PSI), Skip-Shift/CDV deleted, StopTech ST60 front brakes, Hellcat rear Cradle/Brakes, 2 piece DS. 6 speed, 3.9 LSD, 18" wheels - 510 WHP
Kid Hauler:
'08 Suburban LT 4WD - TVS 1900 Blower, LF SC Cam, headers, AFM delete, true 5" lift, 33x12s, 523 WHP
First Love:
'92 GS 5 spd - Straightneck KL/67mm TB, MegaSquirt/Coilpacks, 5 lugs/Speed6 brakes/FD wheels, wiretuck, coilovers, headers, AEM WB, Borla
Deleted: VAF/Power Steering/Air Conditioning/EGR/ABS/Auto Seatbelts/etc
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Re: [GI] KL Stroker Crankshaft & maybe more?
Not taken apart... he's probably driving it around by now.
Now with Moderator power!
Black '93 BP RS - wrecked, parted, scrapped.
Green GS - Sold.
Black GS - Summer DD/Race car - Fancy KLZE
Red GS - K8-ATX -> MTX-KLDE - Frakencar. Scrapped
White GS - Rusty. Parts. Scrapped
1997 BMW M3 - my summer baby
2002 BMW 325Xi - sold
2003 Forester Xti - EJ20K swapped.
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Black '93 BP RS - wrecked, parted, scrapped.
Green GS - Sold.
Black GS - Summer DD/Race car - Fancy KLZE
Red GS - K8-ATX -> MTX-KLDE - Frakencar. Scrapped
White GS - Rusty. Parts. Scrapped
1997 BMW M3 - my summer baby
2002 BMW 325Xi - sold
2003 Forester Xti - EJ20K swapped.
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Re: [GI] KL Stroker Crankshaft & maybe more?
Well, would you mind trying to find out for me please? 

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Kid Hauler:
'08 Suburban LT 4WD - TVS 1900 Blower, LF SC Cam, headers, AFM delete, true 5" lift, 33x12s, 523 WHP
First Love:
'92 GS 5 spd - Straightneck KL/67mm TB, MegaSquirt/Coilpacks, 5 lugs/Speed6 brakes/FD wheels, wiretuck, coilovers, headers, AEM WB, Borla
Deleted: VAF/Power Steering/Air Conditioning/EGR/ABS/Auto Seatbelts/etc
'12 Challenger R/T + STP - Magnuson 2650 blower (7 PSI), Skip-Shift/CDV deleted, StopTech ST60 front brakes, Hellcat rear Cradle/Brakes, 2 piece DS. 6 speed, 3.9 LSD, 18" wheels - 510 WHP
Kid Hauler:
'08 Suburban LT 4WD - TVS 1900 Blower, LF SC Cam, headers, AFM delete, true 5" lift, 33x12s, 523 WHP
First Love:
'92 GS 5 spd - Straightneck KL/67mm TB, MegaSquirt/Coilpacks, 5 lugs/Speed6 brakes/FD wheels, wiretuck, coilovers, headers, AEM WB, Borla
Deleted: VAF/Power Steering/Air Conditioning/EGR/ABS/Auto Seatbelts/etc
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Re: [GI] KL Stroker Crankshaft & maybe more?
Nd4SpdSe wrote:WHy would stroking cause overheating issues? Boring out does, but never heard of stroking a motor causing that...WhiteFinish wrote:The std crank can stand 800hp, why mess with it ?
Please put a lot of research into stroking a kl. You don't want to run into overheating issues.
You can put any size piston so long as you use racing sleeves, this could cost thousands though

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Re: [GI] KL Stroker Crankshaft & maybe more?
f--- it, we'll just get some company to build us a custom engine.
http://www.donovanengineering.com/Block ... locks.html
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1996 MX-3 KL-ZE with Eunos 800 IM, factory side skirts,. "Owner since 2001 my 14th year"
1992 929s 20B-REW Lowered, 17" chrome Millenia rims, custom black interior. "13th Owner 9th year"
2006 Chevy HHR LT "Bought Brand New - East Side Chevy" Sold to my Dad
1992 929s 20B-REW Lowered, 17" chrome Millenia rims, custom black interior. "13th Owner 9th year"
2006 Chevy HHR LT "Bought Brand New - East Side Chevy" Sold to my Dad