2 KLZE or Not 2 KLZE, With K8 ECU?

[Nd4SpdSe]

All my parts are almost in, besides for a few odds and ends that i should be clearing up tomorrow. I'm quite anxious to get it up and running, not for the power, but for breaking in the clutch so i can bring her dragging next month on my day off.<p>How, its gonna be me and my mechanic doing the swap...he's never done a engine swap (upgrade) before, and i'm not mechanicaly inclined, so the last thing i need is to encounter unexpected and complicated problems becuase i couldnt wait for the ECU, and not having my car wont be easy, but for longer than expected is not a good thing, especially since i'll be using my parents car while the cars in the shop, and they're already 3 drivers for 2 cars (Mom, Dad and Sis sharring the '91 Safari and '90 626) <p>So should i go for it or not? I'm planning the KLZE ECU with the 1.8VAF, and im using my stock intake and exaust for now, so i should have the EGR (i have no idea where teh EGR is or looks like, but its on the exaust right?)<p>so should i:<p>1) Wait for the ECU, no matter how anxious i am
2) Do the swap, dont hook up the EGR and ignore teh CEL
3) Do the swap, make the k8 ecu happy and hook up the EGR
4) other?<p>[ July 07, 2003: Message edited by: Nd4SpdSe ]</p>

[Nd4SpdSe]

Also<p> <blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by mazdamaniac:
Just to add to the confusion -
I could NOT get the engine to operate correctly with either the K8 ECU or the KL ECU and the K8 VAF on a KL.
The only VAF that would work correctly was the KL VAF with either ECU.<hr></blockquote><p>BTW, how much would a 2.5VAF go for?<p>[ July 07, 2003: Message edited by: Nd4SpdSe ]</p>

[pelado]

2.5 ECU and VAF $100 PM me.

[lazzyie]

if you check out a junkyard you can probably get a 2.5 vaf for $50cdn....I dont know if you have emmissions testing but you should find out. Swap the egr if you, plug it if you dont.

[Nd4SpdSe]

hmmm, ill check that out, plus i dont need to worry about e-testing for another 2 years, so its no biggie

[killerpickle]

heres the thing. The 2.5 ecu and 2.5 vaf run nice together (both american.) and apparantly the 1.8 ecu and 1.8 vaf will run nice together (though I heard rich) and the ze ecu and the 1.8 vaf run nice together.<p>oh, and in niagara on the lake I paid 100 dollars for the 2.5 vaf (it included the whole box and everything) If I cared at all about 25 bucks I could have bargained with him...but didn't. If you are looking for a vaf go to www.car-part.com and do an ontario search. and make sure you choose mx-6 or 626 or probe and the v6 (and 93-96?)<p>[ July 07, 2003: Message edited by: killerpickle ]</p>

[Nd4SpdSe]

say i run with the 1.8vaf/1.8ecu for a bit, and i get the ZE ecu, all i need to do is plug-in the ecu and un-plug the EGR? What would happen if i left the EGR plugged in?

[Custommx3]

probably get a CEL.
The KLZE doesnt have an EGR, so you could probably loose power. Remember the EGR has to be blocked off by a plate in the back if you remove it.

[lazzyie]

no you dont even have to plug the egr when you run a ze ecu they dont even recognize them, it just sits there till you plug your aspec ecu back in then it will work.

[thebonestockkid]

isnt the 1.8 vaf the same thing as or very similiar to a true ZE vaf? je50 its called i believe, i always thought they were better suited to the ze than a regular de vaf...

[Zoso124]

Yes

[M0RDECHA1 MANDELL]

Just a reminderr , if you know the right people and I suspect some of you do. to pass emissions it is easy as using your vin with another car doin the test.

[Nd4SpdSe]

Sure, with swap'ers, dont we need to obide by the rediculus 1983 e-test standards? We should pass thse with flying colors

[precidian]

I just recently had my E-test done and passed with out a problem.
My current setup is the KL-ZE with 1.8L ECU, 2.5L VAF(from probe) and with a fully hooked up EGR.
I originally had the 1.8L VAF installed and I was constantly getting CELs and would run really rich. If I did a long drive I would start loosing performance.After the swap to the 2.5VAF, car runs smooth, no cel codes and actually better gas milage than the original engine.
btw, I paid about $40cdn for the VAF...<p>cheers,