vics for rs

[wednesdayslatest]

my question really is how could i do that?

i know vics is like vtec and i know if you got a honda you get a ex head that had the vtec solenoid then its vtec as compared to dx

how would i be able to unlesh the wrath of vics on my car. i know it might be quite a lot of work but just lay it out for me

[Nd4SpdSe]

VICS is not at all like VTEC

[wednesdayslatest]

isint it force inducted air with variable valve timing all the same?

well my question was HOW would i be able to put VICS on my rs

what would i need?

new head? solenoid?

[RobMinhas]

Yeah, VICS isn't variable valve timing.

And I think you could put a B6-DE head from a 94+ RS on to your block but I don't really see the point, both b6s make very little power.

You'll gain like fifteen HP and you'll have to replace the ECU, intake mani, exhaust mani, head, valves, retainers, keepers, maf, engine harness, coffee can cat from the exhaust.

If you want to make power stick a BP in there.

[wednesdayslatest]

exhaust i have corksport not on there yet
intake i was going to change my MAF to VAF there are only like 2 or 3 that i can pick the 60mm one i have to recheck an old thread someone answered for me a while back

you cant just modify the harness on there already?

ecu understandable
intake manifold understandable
head of course
valves?
retainers?
keepers?

my exhaust im about to redo, its from corksport. the headers out 2.25 to the cat in 2.25 cat out 2.5 res in 2.5 and 2.5 rest out, whatever pipe is left then put a reducer from 2.5 to 2.25 right before it gets to the 90 degree, have a 2.25 90 degree to a reducer to stock which i just got a brand new stock muffler already
(on my civic i have 2 inch straight pipe and a stock exhaust and it sounds nice just a little loud)

i was already thinking about swapping a miata head over with the intake mani but again like you said someone said its not worth it. well i DID replace my head before then. if i didnt i should of done that. sounds to me it would of been a lot easier then adding VICS.

well the only other thing i was thinking which englines come with VICS? 4cyl DOHC bp or not i DO was to motorswap but not until i run this engine into the ground. obviously i cant get a BPT GTR with VICS because you cant find it anywhere at least when i looked a while back. so im not sure what id be able to drop in there thats gonna put these hondas to shame. i mean come on mazda didnt win the world cup 5 years in a row for nothing

[RobMinhas]

exhaust i have corksport not on there yet
intake i was going to change my MAF to VAF there are only like 2 or 3 that i can pick the 60mm one i have to recheck an old thread someone answered for me a while back

You have a SOHC no? Means you have a VAF that you have to switch to a 94+ B6 Maf.

you cant just modify the harness on there already?

ecu understandable
intake manifold understandable
head of course
valves?
retainers?
keepers

You can but it's just an engine harness, might as well pay the thirty bucks at the wreckers and not have that headache to deal with.

It's a a16v head vs an 8v head. If you get a complete head you don't have to worry about it but if it's just the head you'll have to get valves, valve retainers, valve keepers, camshafts, lifters, cam sprockets, camshaft caps, etc.

i was already thinking about swapping a miata head over with the intake mani but again like you said someone said its not worth it. well i DID replace my head before then. if i didnt i should of done that. sounds to me it would of been a lot easier then adding VICS.

Same head as the B6 from 94+ MX3, just with small differences but essentially the same head.

I can hardly tell what the rest of that post says but if you really want to put Honda boys to shame go BPT. BPT GTX come with 200ish HP and that's pretty much more then any factory honda out there. Build the engine and up the boost and you'll be making more numbers then that.

[wednesdayslatest]

exhaust i have corksport not on there yet
intake i was going to change my MAF to VAF there are only like 2 or 3 that i can pick the 60mm one i have to recheck an old thread someone answered for me a while back

You have a SOHC no? Means you have a VAF that you have to switch to a 94+ B6 Maf.

you cant just modify the harness on there already?

ecu understandable
intake manifold understandable
head of course
valves?
retainers?
keepers

You can but it's just an engine harness, might as well pay the thirty bucks at the wreckers and not have that headache to deal with.

It's a a16v head vs an 8v head. If you get a complete head you don't have to worry about it but if it's just the head you'll have to get valves, valve retainers, valve keepers, camshafts, lifters, cam sprockets, camshaft caps, etc.

i was already thinking about swapping a miata head over with the intake mani but again like you said someone said its not worth it. well i DID replace my head before then. if i didnt i should of done that. sounds to me it would of been a lot easier then adding VICS.

Same head as the B6 from 94+ MX3, just with small differences but essentially the same head.

I can hardly tell what the rest of that post says but if you really want to put Honda boys to shame go BPT. BPT GTX come with 200ish HP and that's pretty much more then any factory honda out there. Build the engine and up the boost and you'll be making more numbers then that.

yes i have the SOHC 93 rs and i have 16V head

i do have the MAF its the big one that i have an adapter on it for the intake head

the VAF goes inbetween two pipes (the one that i want so i can put intake pipe in and get rid of the plastic arm)

yeah if i was going to do a head swap i would just take it from a junkyard car and take everything i need

and yeah i read that the gasket only needs to be moded in two spots to swap to the miata head

and yeah BPT GTX was the 2nd best one (but bpt gtx already comes with stock turbo, assumingly its the biggest and best one for the bpt)

thats what i was thinking about compared to the k20? spooner engine 200 HP no turbo the new hondas have the k20/k24 in there now, at least the SI

ive had the car for like 3 or 4 years, everyone drives the damn hondas and think theyre the best but theyre just commuter cars, they do motorswaps over here like crazy with them putting suv honda motors in there and k20/k24 its not really too many stock cars over here since theyre full of them, the ones that race them usually have something under the hood

edit: also does the bpt gtx have VICS?

[RobMinhas]

Honestly Mazda doesn't have an N/A engine that can compare to the K20. Not to mention that 90s engines made by Mazda have prehistoric timing as well.

GTX comes with vj20 turbo, not a very big turbo at all. You can go bigger without excessive lag easily.

I've got no idea if either BPT comes with VICS, I've got a GTR but it's got much fewer vaccuum lines compared to my B6 with VICS.

[wednesdayslatest]

Honestly Mazda doesn't have an N/A engine that can compare to the K20. Not to mention that 90s engines made by Mazda have prehistoric timing as well.

GTX comes with vj20 turbo, not a very big turbo at all. You can go bigger without excessive lag easily.

I've got no idea if either BPT comes with VICS, I've got a GTR but it's got much fewer vaccuum lines compared to my B6 with VICS.

hmmm so what would be the biggest/best turbo to put with minimal lag?

if i WAS to turbo the SOHC what turbo would i put for minimal lag?

so what does fewer vaccuum lines equal? like does it hinder the intake parts from sucking in or does it not need it because its being routed another method

so you HAVE a gtr huh damn i bet its illegal over here.

random question what about twin turbo you hear anything about that?

[RobMinhas]

Erm...I'm not sure, maybe a .63? Someone else would have to chime in and I think the .63 is for the BP but I coudln't tell you otherwise.

Wheelhop is the only member I know who boosted a SOHC B6, he claims 160 HP to the crank at 6 lbs but without dyno sheets I'm incredibly skeptical.

VICS is set up with vacuum lines going the the intake on my B6, I've got no clue about it otherwise.

I just have the GTR engine, no GTR turbo or intake manifold or ECU, can't see why that would be illegal since it's just like a factory BP05 just with sodium valves and better lower end internals.

Twin turbo is incredibly difficult as it is but when you factor in FWD cars with engines mounted transversely the room is just not there.

[wednesdayslatest]

Erm...I'm not sure, maybe a .63? Someone else would have to chime in and I think the .63 is for the BP but I coudln't tell you otherwise.

Wheelhop is the only member I know who boosted a SOHC B6, he claims 160 HP to the crank at 6 lbs but without dyno sheets I'm incredibly skeptical.

VICS is set up with vacuum lines going the the intake on my B6, I've got no clue about it otherwise.

I just have the GTR engine, no GTR turbo or intake manifold or ECU, can't see why that would be illegal since it's just like a factory BP05 just with sodium valves and better lower end internals.

Twin turbo is incredibly difficult as it is but when you factor in FWD cars with engines mounted transversely the room is just not there.

i see yeah, what i ment by illegal is with everything on there tuned out, which is what i thought how it normally comes. when certain cars come in the states like say a skyline they have to cut a turbo because its TOO fast and it would be considered illegal...

so you have the GTR block/head/tranny?

then what car would be the intake mani/ecu be for?

you know a lot. at least more then me i havnt done too too much to my car but its always nice to have someone answer questions that i randomly think up lol

i know its getting off topic now on this part but i need to ask...

i have a SOHC rs 93 with a 4 pin disty (i get the 3 flash code) so i need to change it but these people that got the HEI mod and MSD mod bypass the disty somehow
i wanted to know if i could just do it with my coil only
so i can get the damn thing to start up as its been sitting there driving me crazy for 2 day which is why im on the forums all over the place

i have an msd coil already hooked up to the stock wires

if there is a different disty that would be better i could put on the sohc that would be better?

people dont want to seem to answer the questions and i really need the advice bad

im planning on going to the junkyard tomorrow but idk if theyll be open for memorial day and its not gonna for sure fix the problem but i hope it does

[RobMinhas]

Cut a turbo? wat

I've got the GTR head w/ sodium valves and block with the oil coolers and stronger piston rods.

GTX intake mani and a Haltec Standalone although I'm hunting for a GTR intake mani.

I have absolutely no idea about the disty business as I have a later year RS with a different distributor.

I don't think I know a single person on this forum with a B6 or BP that went with an external coil, it's usually just v6 guys who do that.

[wednesdayslatest]

Cut a turbo? wat

I've got the GTR head w/ sodium valves and block with the oil coolers and stronger piston rods.

GTX intake mani and a Haltec Standalone although I'm hunting for a GTR intake mani.

I have absolutely no idea about the disty business as I have a later year RS with a different distributor.

I don't think I know a single person on this forum with a B6 or BP that went with an external coil, it's usually just v6 guys who do that.

yeah not literally CUT but they put a single turbo from the twin turbo. (slang)

yeah well i was looking at this

viewtopic.php?f=23&t=69006

and then i went to the first one the orignal and basically the jist of it is the stock ignition coil in the disty is faulty and i NEED to do this mod well it will probably happen to me in the near future but hopefully to fix this issue i can swap the disty drive the car and mod the thing later when i have money lol

yeah theyre all talkin about modding the cap for the 5th wire but mine already has the 5th wire so now i need to figure out where to hook up the coil im starting to think the TPS is where i need it to go. then they start talking about these damn ohm resistors smh i know nothing about it and i need to and i need to use the one i lost so i can hook up this capacitor for my two amps but theres no point if the thing isint running. well its late hopefully tomorrow will be better. im going to read up a little more maybe something might make sense if i read it enough who knows it is for sure going to be altered from their guides since i have a 93 rs sohc but it shouldnt be that different

edit: im so damn tired right now. but really thanks for the info it helped me figure a few things out