SOHC Vs. DOHC??? Some question...

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Re: SOHC Vs. DOHC??? Some question...

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RobMinhas wrote:That thread is a little difficult to go through without a decent amount of car knowledge so I'll try to give you some help here.

What you'll need:

A Mazda/Ford BP engine(90-94 Mazda Protege with the DOHC and 90-93 Ford Escort GT, Im not 100percent sure on the years for the Escort though).
BP VAF from the same car the engine came from.
BP ECU from the same car you pulled the engine from

That's it, you don't need any harness bits or anything, pull out, stuff in, bolt up and plug in. Any mechanic worth their salt can do this swap.

Id reccomend doing the timing belt and water pump as well as replace the clutch since those jobs are incredibly easy when the engines out.

A guide i used when I researched my swap(other then picking at Mi|<es brain) was this site here:

http://www.clubprotege.com/wil/tech/b-s ... wapfaq.htm
Umm I been doing more research here about this and the car I get the bp engine from I need those two things, I understand that. Since I am a auto tranny do I need to pull this from another auto tranny car so the ecu match up?

That was the impression I was getting...
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My gut says yes but I don't know for sure, I would assume that if you pulled the engine and VAF from a manual BP you could use an auto BPs ecu with them fine.
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If you grabbed the engine from a manual car, you'll need the Throttle Position Sensor from an automatic car. The ECU shouldn't matter between auto and manual. If I remember correctly, mx-3s have a separate computer for the auto trans.
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Trans is usually swapped with a BP swap to a G-series, no?
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I would do a flush and filter change on it since you are at it and will have access. The ATX in there should hold up just fine as long as you don't slam through the gears and beat it up, that will kill any of them. Savin is right, I do believe the ATX in the 92-93's have a separate module for the ATX so all you would need is the BP10 ecu and VAF. With that said the BP will bolt right up and all you will need is the passenger side motor mount. The other issue most run into is the passenger axle and half shaft, but as it is an ATX you should have a full length passenger axle which will make thing A LOT easier then sourcing a proper half shaft and axle combo.
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Barry tried to do it in his RS I believe. I don't remember why but he couldn't do it. Worth looking into it
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Nd4SpdSe wrote:Barry tried to do it in his RS I believe. I don't remember why but he couldn't do it. Worth looking into it
That whould mean I need to know who Barry is lol

I was thinking the same thing josh, I mean I got the dam engine out why the heck not change the tranny filter and blow out the lines :)

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Sorry, CustomMx3, lol
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This swap is a tad bit different and probably a bigger pain in the rear, but it shows a BP with an auto CAN be done in an MX-3: viewtopic.php?f=46&t=54032

There's some inspiration for you. :wink:
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Ok lots of good info here :) I think I should be ok!

http://mx-3.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=62471

Btw this person thread helped a lot as well he swaped his with a automatic tranny. Also learned only use a 90-93 engine from this persons thread.

viewtopic.php?f=46&t=78176

There is a lot of info out there, just have to sort it all out!

Thanks again guys!
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