[FS] NGK RC-ZE25 Plug lead / spark plug wire sets

[mitmaks]

These are good wires and price is right. I have 115K miles on original set and still starts/runs great. I know I'll be getting a set just to replace old ones

[SuperK]

You know, you could take them out of the box, put them in a smaller box, and ship a bulk of them to someone in the states, who can redistribute them in individual boxes to save a whole lot more in shipping.

so it'd cost, lets say, 1.5x more for shipping maybe, to the states, but then it'd be like 5-10 bucks shipping from the states to everyone else. Be a whole lot cheaper!

[MrMazda92]

I'm on the fence for a set, I really want them at this price, but I've spent around $4,000 since early November and funds are tight. If SuperK's idea pans out, and shipping can be knocked down a little more, then put me down for a set.

[projectB10]

If SuperK's idea pans out, and shipping can be knocked down a little more, then put me down for a set.

I dont think the idea has legs.

Just a couple of considerations to think about. Mr NGK has some smart logistics people working for them. Being succesful in business is all about efficiency and effectiveness. They dont use a retail packaging approach for this product line. Typically the product ships from wholesale to a parts supplier. The opportunity to minimise shipping and shelf space costs are a big deal. Its all about optimal use of consumables and space. NGK isnt going to waste an opportunity to optimise in this area ....have you ever tried to repack a Plug Lead set into its original container box??

Its an exercise in patience and technique. There is no spare space

Consider also that most international shipping arrangements using airmail belly cargo (in my experience) are all priced on the weight of the goods not volume. I am sure that the outer "lead set" cardboard packaging doesn't weigh enough to make any useful difference to the shipping cost.

[SuperK]

I could lay out each individual wire crescent shaped, and line the wires up, bundle them in one bundle and possibly fit all the cables in oh... a whole lot smaller package. I am sure someone much more intelligent can explain it better than me, but in dumbdumb language, each cable has a significant surface area, but when you bundle every cable together, only a portion of the surface area is available. I have tried repackaging spark plug wires in it's original box... and because the initial surface area of cables, when bundled together, isn't increased all that much, there's not too much difference between... 1 cable and ten if it's done with a teensy bit of fairy dust. Shipping is very dependant on volumetric weight. it takes in consideration both size and weight to determine shipping costs..

... I've learned this from the over half dozen euro bumpers I ordered from europe, as well as other miscellaneous items.

It's just a suggestion, if this is a financial benefit that you're doing, and you're gaining a good return, that's not bad. however if this is just to help out the community, reducing pricing significantly per set is a great way to do it

[projectB10]

...if this is a financial benefit that you're doing, and you're gaining a good return, that's not bad. however if this is just to help out the community, reducing pricing significantly per set is a great way to do it

Back up the bus mate!!!

I am offering this at my COST price. There is NOTHING (repeat NOTHING) in this for me.

How do you suggest I go about "reducing pricing significantly" ??? . You must think I am Santa Claus.

[MrMazda92]

I don't believe he intended to imply that you were seeking profits. You made it clear before that you are doing this for the community, and honestly I'm quite grateful that you are. I just can't justify the shipping costs, even when the plugs are very affordable at this price.

I don't have an immediate need, they would sit for 6+ months, and it's a lot more attractive to me if I can penny pinch the shipping. If there were a 3 month shipping option for example, that saved me half the shipping cost, I would be all over that It wouldn't hurt me to wait!

[SuperK]

I can read normal text font size just fine, thanks. I could trade you some chill pills for a set of those wires.

I don't understand why people just can't read though, seriously, I gave the "cheaper" solution in my first post. it was a suggestion. Suggestions can be heeded or disregarded. Regardless I have no interest in the cables personally. There's nothing wrong with gaining a little money on any transactions. I often do gain a few dollars whenever I sell anything. Gas money, time, whatever, it still costs money.

but by a simple bit of math: 10 sets of cables for 40 USD shipped, then redistributed in the US for 8/each shipping, would come out to a total of 120 dollars shipping for 10 cables. you quote a 27nz each which is about 21 US dollars shipping, that's a bit of savings.

I believe for a set of cables someone could ship for possibly 5 dollars which would decrease the price again even lower.

That, sir, is how you become santa claus.

[Evo_Spec]

i understand the argument going on here but it still doesn't make sense to me.
your basically asking for another person in the US to front the money to buy the whole lot from him so that you can save some money?
not only is this unfair to chris who is just offering us a cheaper alternative to what we can get from a retailer here but it's unfair to try to get yet another person to have to front they're time and money to save you guys some more money.

i paid chris about $50 CAD and for me to get it from rockauto would cost me $100, or even canadian tire which is something ridiculous like $130. now i haven't shopped around much but i really like rockauto so i would of most likely bought from them anyways.
what i'm trying to get at is chris gave me 50% off and i'm thankful for that. a lot of people would go ape s--- if a store had 50% sale yet you guys are basically saying his sale isn't good enough.

i don't know, i'm probably not making a lot of sense here cause i'm kinda ranting but either way i'm just trying to say that it'd be completely unfair to chris who is already using his own time and money to help the community and your just throwing it in face and on top of that your hoping yet another person will come out and put up his time and money to help you guys further.

anyways, this has gotten out of hand and should really just get back to the point where chris is helping us out by offering us cheap ngk wires and just leave it at that

[mitmaks]

^^^^what he said. He offered me a set at $46 shipped which is awesome deal. Try finding NGK wires for that price range anywhere else, when you do please let us know. Until then you need to stop whining or I'm going have to lock this thread and only let original poster update it as needed.

[MrMazda92]

I hope that wasn't targeted towards me, I've had about 3 too many arguments on here this week already... I'm pretty much over it now.

For what it's worth, I expressed my gratitude at his assisting the community without even having purchased a set myself.

[Evo_Spec]

I hope that wasn't targeted towards me, I've had about 3 too many arguments on here this week already... I'm pretty much over it now.

For what it's worth, I expressed my gratitude at his assisting the community without even having purchased a set myself.

i really didn't mean it in a personal way so it's not my intention to to target you or anyone.

really i think why it bothered me so much was that i put myself in other people's shoes and it would be really frustrating to be in his position and i guess it went a little far to where it felt personal

[SuperK]

sigh... no it's not for me to save some money. I don't even have use for them, and don't have time to ship anything. you know how long it took me to ship out a darned bumper? Too long.
It's about helping out in the community, that means willing to take responsibility, especially from someone overseas, and helping the rest. If bloke #1 put up money to secure a product for a good price, then there ought to be bloke #2 that can step up and take that responsibility to help out the market that's actually going to buy them. It's the definition of logistics. The detailed coordination of a complex operation involving many people, facilities, or supplies, to save a potential 25% off a already ridiculously low price. It, in my book, is a cool idea. This stuff is what communities are for anyways.

There's a lot of people on this forum that got a lot of cool euro stuff because SuperK was willing to do exactly this, and it turned out to be a cool idea. I should have just let it go, and maybe I shouldn't even post this but whatever, it bothers me when ideas that are designed to help the community are treated poorly, we're supposed to scratch each other's back, evo, and the money that is saved, can even go to the community. Even if they were resold here in the US locally, that's possibly 100 bucks that could have been split up with the guy in NZ, and whoever is in the states. that is a nice little "Thank you" gift for getting cheap parts in the first place.

That's why I said, it's perfectly fine to make some money on the side, and it's very worth the consideration... for everyone's benefit. I'd rather have money go to friends than to couriers. That's why I said what I said, I don't understand why that's frustrating to you.

[MrMazda92]

i really didn't mean it in a personal way so it's not my intention to to target you or anyone.

really i think why it bothered me so much was that i put myself in other people's shoes and it would be really frustrating to be in his position and i guess it went a little far to where it felt personal

No accusations implied. I was just curious, I've been extra careful with money lately... It's been going out far quicker than intended.

[Evo_Spec]

I'd rather have money go to friends than to couriers. That's why I said what I said, I don't understand why that's frustrating to you.

that makes way more sense being said this way.
i dunno though, not many people really have extra time and finances to be able to help the community so i just never really expect it i guess.
i never thought you had a bad idea or anything though but i just really don't see someone being willing to do what you mentioned so that's why i said what i did. i mean even a guy like me who has no job right now has more than enough time to ship stuff everywhere but i don't have the finances right now so...yeah.
so yeah my apologies.