b6 head issues...anyone?
b6 head issues...anyone?
im looking to change out my head on my b6 due to lack of available parts and the crappy intake its got
i know i could pull anything off of a 323 miata protege etc but im worried about the intakes they have on them
i would pull one off a miata but i know that the intake would face the passenger side which would complicate things and i dont want to pull off a 1.5 protege because of the smaller valves ( i know the miata has the same valves, etc)
i was thinking of pulling the head off a kia sephia but i dont know how well the head is built being as it has gone through kia manufacturing :p
does anyone have any suggestions ????
i know i could pull anything off of a 323 miata protege etc but im worried about the intakes they have on them
i would pull one off a miata but i know that the intake would face the passenger side which would complicate things and i dont want to pull off a 1.5 protege because of the smaller valves ( i know the miata has the same valves, etc)
i was thinking of pulling the head off a kia sephia but i dont know how well the head is built being as it has gone through kia manufacturing :p
does anyone have any suggestions ????
1994 MX-3 1.6L B6DE 16v DOHC - rear disc swap, nix power steering/ac, Corksport f&r strut tower bars, Pedders urethane control arm bushings, urethane motor mounts, steel braided brake lines, painted dash, protege tranny
90 Miata w/ b6, Konig Lightspeed rims, Cams (boost to come soon)
74 Porsche 914 w/ 1.8L - restoration prooject

90 Miata w/ b6, Konig Lightspeed rims, Cams (boost to come soon)
74 Porsche 914 w/ 1.8L - restoration prooject

Re: b6 head issues...anyone?
update: kia sephia head and miata head the same?????
same gaskets
same gaskets
1994 MX-3 1.6L B6DE 16v DOHC - rear disc swap, nix power steering/ac, Corksport f&r strut tower bars, Pedders urethane control arm bushings, urethane motor mounts, steel braided brake lines, painted dash, protege tranny
90 Miata w/ b6, Konig Lightspeed rims, Cams (boost to come soon)
74 Porsche 914 w/ 1.8L - restoration prooject

90 Miata w/ b6, Konig Lightspeed rims, Cams (boost to come soon)
74 Porsche 914 w/ 1.8L - restoration prooject

- Savin
- Regular Member
- Posts: 1580
- Joined: November 18th, 2007, 3:05 pm
- Location: Crown Point, IN (Chicago area)
- Contact:
Re: b6 head issues...anyone?
uhhh.....if you have a b6, why are you trying to put a BP head on it?
I'm pretty sure the sephia was never a b6, just a bp....
I'm pretty sure the sephia was never a b6, just a bp....
'95 MX-3 RS - Project "Déjà Vu" Destined for the scrapyard.
'93 MX-3 GS - SOLD!
'93 MX-3 GS SE - Parts car!
'94 MX-3 GS - Scrapped
'94 MX-3 RS - Scrapped
'96 Sunfire SE - Scrapped
'03 Sunfire SE - Deathtrap
'95 Cavalier Base - Scrapped
'94 Thunderbird LX - Collects dust
'89 Mustang GT - SOLD!
'93 MX-3 GS - SOLD!
'93 MX-3 GS SE - Parts car!
'94 MX-3 GS - Scrapped
'94 MX-3 RS - Scrapped
'96 Sunfire SE - Scrapped
'03 Sunfire SE - Deathtrap
'95 Cavalier Base - Scrapped
'94 Thunderbird LX - Collects dust
'89 Mustang GT - SOLD!
Re: b6 head issues...anyone?
check your facts
some models of the sehpia rio and something else came with 1.5/1.6l
pwnt

some models of the sehpia rio and something else came with 1.5/1.6l
pwnt
1994 MX-3 1.6L B6DE 16v DOHC - rear disc swap, nix power steering/ac, Corksport f&r strut tower bars, Pedders urethane control arm bushings, urethane motor mounts, steel braided brake lines, painted dash, protege tranny
90 Miata w/ b6, Konig Lightspeed rims, Cams (boost to come soon)
74 Porsche 914 w/ 1.8L - restoration prooject

90 Miata w/ b6, Konig Lightspeed rims, Cams (boost to come soon)
74 Porsche 914 w/ 1.8L - restoration prooject

- Savin
- Regular Member
- Posts: 1580
- Joined: November 18th, 2007, 3:05 pm
- Location: Crown Point, IN (Chicago area)
- Contact:
Re: b6 head issues...anyone?
so...you mean the 1.6L that's a sohc?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Parts-Ac ... 06.c0.m245" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
as for the 1.5, i'll find out about that, but i'm sure it'll probably end up being like the mazda 1.5, too small to be compatible
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Parts-Ac ... 06.c0.m245" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
as for the 1.5, i'll find out about that, but i'm sure it'll probably end up being like the mazda 1.5, too small to be compatible
'95 MX-3 RS - Project "Déjà Vu" Destined for the scrapyard.
'93 MX-3 GS - SOLD!
'93 MX-3 GS SE - Parts car!
'94 MX-3 GS - Scrapped
'94 MX-3 RS - Scrapped
'96 Sunfire SE - Scrapped
'03 Sunfire SE - Deathtrap
'95 Cavalier Base - Scrapped
'94 Thunderbird LX - Collects dust
'89 Mustang GT - SOLD!
'93 MX-3 GS - SOLD!
'93 MX-3 GS SE - Parts car!
'94 MX-3 GS - Scrapped
'94 MX-3 RS - Scrapped
'96 Sunfire SE - Scrapped
'03 Sunfire SE - Deathtrap
'95 Cavalier Base - Scrapped
'94 Thunderbird LX - Collects dust
'89 Mustang GT - SOLD!
Re: b6 head issues...anyone?
they make the 1.6 dualie too
they do have the 1.5 but i dont know if its the same as the 1.6 w/ diff stroke or something
http://www.intellichoice.com/reports/ve ... Kia/Sephia" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
the 1.6 is more common than youd think
they do have the 1.5 but i dont know if its the same as the 1.6 w/ diff stroke or something
http://www.intellichoice.com/reports/ve ... Kia/Sephia" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
the 1.6 is more common than youd think
1994 MX-3 1.6L B6DE 16v DOHC - rear disc swap, nix power steering/ac, Corksport f&r strut tower bars, Pedders urethane control arm bushings, urethane motor mounts, steel braided brake lines, painted dash, protege tranny
90 Miata w/ b6, Konig Lightspeed rims, Cams (boost to come soon)
74 Porsche 914 w/ 1.8L - restoration prooject

90 Miata w/ b6, Konig Lightspeed rims, Cams (boost to come soon)
74 Porsche 914 w/ 1.8L - restoration prooject

-
- Junior Member
- Posts: 10
- Joined: October 21st, 2008, 10:15 am
Re: b6 head issues...anyone?
If memory serves me right, the forging on intake manifolds and such from any of the kia "mazda" based engines is not nearly as good as it is coming from an actual mazda. I don't know if you can swap them, but I really am concerned with is I don't think there would be much of a benefit for swapping them. Look at the intake manifolds of the BP and B8, the resemble that of the B6 SOHC. The wierd spiral lunk of an intake that the B6-DE has is probley because it was one of the first mazda engines with the VICS system. The B6T doesn't have VICS, and had a completely different manifold. I think it also resembled the BP and the B6 SOHC.
- Shades
- Regular Member
- Posts: 944
- Joined: February 7th, 2002, 2:01 am
- Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada
- Contact:
Re: b6 head issues...anyone?
WTF???... why couldn't you use the Miata head? Take your old intake off and bolt it to the Miata head... problem solved. A B6 is a B6 is a B6.

JoN - Ex-Automotive Machinist Journeyman/Refrigeration Mechanic Apprentice
1996 Mazda MX-3 RS - Creek Blue Mica
RACING BP fully built with Twin Scroll GT3071R TURBO @ +30psi - Specs and Pictures
"Do it ONCE, do it RIGHT!"
- Ryan
- Senior Member
- Posts: 7199
- Joined: April 7th, 2008, 1:06 pm
- antispam: ~SPAM*SUX~
- Location: Manitoba
Re: b6 head issues...anyone?
Thats a lie.Shades wrote:WTF???... why couldn't you use the Miata head? Take your old intake off and bolt it to the Miata head... problem solved. A B6 is a B6 is a B6.
A B6 has two SOHC varients, two DOHC varients. None of them will interchange without modification.
Now with Moderator power!
Black '93 BP RS - wrecked, parted, scrapped.
Green GS - Sold.
Black GS - Summer DD/Race car - Fancy KLZE
Red GS - K8-ATX -> MTX-KLDE - Frakencar. Scrapped
White GS - Rusty. Parts. Scrapped
1997 BMW M3 - my summer baby
2002 BMW 325Xi - sold
2003 Forester Xti - EJ20K swapped.
Feedback
Black '93 BP RS - wrecked, parted, scrapped.
Green GS - Sold.
Black GS - Summer DD/Race car - Fancy KLZE
Red GS - K8-ATX -> MTX-KLDE - Frakencar. Scrapped
White GS - Rusty. Parts. Scrapped
1997 BMW M3 - my summer baby
2002 BMW 325Xi - sold
2003 Forester Xti - EJ20K swapped.
Feedback
- Shades
- Regular Member
- Posts: 944
- Joined: February 7th, 2002, 2:01 am
- Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada
- Contact:
Re: b6 head issues...anyone?
Sorry let me rephrase...Ryan wrote:Thats a lie.Shades wrote:WTF???... why couldn't you use the Miata head? Take your old intake off and bolt it to the Miata head... problem solved. A B6 is a B6 is a B6.
A B6 has two SOHC varients, two DOHC varients. None of them will interchange without modification.
A B6DE is a B6DE is a B6DE.
Doesn't matter where you get your DOHC B6 from... I'm unaware of your two variants.

JoN - Ex-Automotive Machinist Journeyman/Refrigeration Mechanic Apprentice
1996 Mazda MX-3 RS - Creek Blue Mica
RACING BP fully built with Twin Scroll GT3071R TURBO @ +30psi - Specs and Pictures
"Do it ONCE, do it RIGHT!"
- Ryan
- Senior Member
- Posts: 7199
- Joined: April 7th, 2008, 1:06 pm
- antispam: ~SPAM*SUX~
- Location: Manitoba
Re: b6 head issues...anyone?
I believe the miata head is different... I don't remember how, but something tells me it is. compression is different, but thats only a valvetrain thing, right? also... coil packs? I don't remember... ugh.
According to Wiki, the regular DOHC is the same as the B6T from the GTX and such; just no turbo.
According to Wiki, the regular DOHC is the same as the B6T from the GTX and such; just no turbo.
Now with Moderator power!
Black '93 BP RS - wrecked, parted, scrapped.
Green GS - Sold.
Black GS - Summer DD/Race car - Fancy KLZE
Red GS - K8-ATX -> MTX-KLDE - Frakencar. Scrapped
White GS - Rusty. Parts. Scrapped
1997 BMW M3 - my summer baby
2002 BMW 325Xi - sold
2003 Forester Xti - EJ20K swapped.
Feedback
Black '93 BP RS - wrecked, parted, scrapped.
Green GS - Sold.
Black GS - Summer DD/Race car - Fancy KLZE
Red GS - K8-ATX -> MTX-KLDE - Frakencar. Scrapped
White GS - Rusty. Parts. Scrapped
1997 BMW M3 - my summer baby
2002 BMW 325Xi - sold
2003 Forester Xti - EJ20K swapped.
Feedback
- Shades
- Regular Member
- Posts: 944
- Joined: February 7th, 2002, 2:01 am
- Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada
- Contact:
Re: b6 head issues...anyone?
I'm just talking head... everything is the same.Ryan wrote:I believe the miata head is different... I don't remember how, but something tells me it is. compression is different, but thats only a valvetrain thing, right? also... coil packs? I don't remember... ugh.
According to Wiki, the regular DOHC is the same as the B6T from the GTX and such; just no turbo.
Yes Miata's use coilpacks and different intake manny's... but we not talking about that.
When I had my B6DE I always found parts for it... so I'm not sure what he's going on about.

JoN - Ex-Automotive Machinist Journeyman/Refrigeration Mechanic Apprentice
1996 Mazda MX-3 RS - Creek Blue Mica
RACING BP fully built with Twin Scroll GT3071R TURBO @ +30psi - Specs and Pictures
"Do it ONCE, do it RIGHT!"
Re: b6 head issues...anyone?
the head on the miata b6de has smaller valves which tend to clatter after 100k which means a new valve job
it also has a diff bolt pattern for the intake manifold which is my issue
a b6t intake would solve my issue but i cant seem to find one... that's why im considering other heads
it also has a diff bolt pattern for the intake manifold which is my issue
a b6t intake would solve my issue but i cant seem to find one... that's why im considering other heads
1994 MX-3 1.6L B6DE 16v DOHC - rear disc swap, nix power steering/ac, Corksport f&r strut tower bars, Pedders urethane control arm bushings, urethane motor mounts, steel braided brake lines, painted dash, protege tranny
90 Miata w/ b6, Konig Lightspeed rims, Cams (boost to come soon)
74 Porsche 914 w/ 1.8L - restoration prooject

90 Miata w/ b6, Konig Lightspeed rims, Cams (boost to come soon)
74 Porsche 914 w/ 1.8L - restoration prooject

-
- Regular Member
- Posts: 209
- Joined: February 10th, 2008, 9:00 am
Re: b6 head issues...anyone?
ok will a B6ZE distributor fit on a B6DE
or is there a way to make the B6DE have a external coil ?
or is there a way to make the B6DE have a external coil ?
Re: b6 head issues...anyone?
do a search
less than 2 months ago i did a wright up on how to swap the b6de all in one for the remote coil...come to think of it its probably still on the first page
. . .
less than 2 months ago i did a wright up on how to swap the b6de all in one for the remote coil...come to think of it its probably still on the first page
. . .
1994 MX-3 1.6L B6DE 16v DOHC - rear disc swap, nix power steering/ac, Corksport f&r strut tower bars, Pedders urethane control arm bushings, urethane motor mounts, steel braided brake lines, painted dash, protege tranny
90 Miata w/ b6, Konig Lightspeed rims, Cams (boost to come soon)
74 Porsche 914 w/ 1.8L - restoration prooject

90 Miata w/ b6, Konig Lightspeed rims, Cams (boost to come soon)
74 Porsche 914 w/ 1.8L - restoration prooject
