projectors

[Taras]

We paid $57 for the high and low beam projectors.

You mean $57 each. So one would need four.

[jaydog5678]

Taras, sorry for the confusion. Pat did pay $57 each for the 90mm units. I have not purchased any DS2 projectors as of yet. I'm still planning and saving for my set of lamps. Is it possible to convert the standard halogen 90mm projector into HID?

We sanded the outside of the lenses mostly for looks. A total of 4 lenses, including mine, a couple of them had some pitting and deep scratches on the outside. The nipples were sanded smooth as well. We thought it would give it a better appearance and really didn't have anything to do with the weatherproofing. Without the lenses, the lighting was so much cleaner and sharper. Pat may leave his lenses off, but to me the lamps look better with the lenses on. It gives it the stock appearance IMO.

[Urbanconcept]

I have been thinking about this project for some time now. I considered the integra lights as someone posted before, but after measuring they just wouldn't fit right. It would be way too much work just to get them to fit. I spoke with a guy who did a swap on his camaro using PIAA lights, and he suggested exactly what you are talking about, these 90mm units. Here is his site for those interested..

http://www.bfranker.badz28.com/94Z/piaa.htm

I spoke with a good friend of mine, who is a wiz with body work and custom fiberglass enclosures, and he is going to help me with the project. He said that the enclosure itself wouldn't be all that hard to fabricate. The most difficult part he said would be the wiring. We have planned to tackle this project after march, prob sometime into april/may as he has to finish his nissan 240 and get all the final touches done on it. I will fully document this project as it unfolds and let everyone know the end result and costs. I plan on using the 90mm units, for both high and low beam. There will only be two units per housing, since the turn signal is not necessary. If all goes well and the housing isn't difficult to manufacture I would gladly make and ship some out to all of you, for a fee of course. As for now I will build the prototype, document the process and finally post results. Don't expect anything in the near future, however I hope to have this completed by the end of June at the very latest.

[mitmaks]

im still interested in bolt-in projectors

[PATDIESEL]

Allright guys and gals the project is finished, but I haven't had a chance to get night pics of the beam pattern or installed pics due to the rain here in Georgia. I'll have them up as soon as we get a break in the weather. I will not release many pics untill the pattent goes through. I don't want some other company stealing my idea and making them cheaper without my concent. As J-Dog said it has taken over a year to perfect the lamp and it's fitment, too much work to have someone copy it.

You can see a few pics here: http://www.atlantamx3.com/mocaforum/viewtopic.php?t=708

I will sell a builders kit for anyone interested. A group buy will be set up (with permission) when I'm ready and we will probably take a initial order of five. The kit will contain the inner housing to fit the 90mm modules and very detailed directions on wiring and how to modify the housing. Also I would like to say that this will NOT be for anyone who is not versed with fiberglass or body filler. If you mess it up it is your fault and I won't replace anything you mess up.

As for the lense. I did think that they might look better without the lense, but that was at night. The next day I took them off to take a look and discovered that the stock housing will leave a huge gap between the bumper and lamp without the lense and looks like crap. So yeah, you will have to spend DAYS sanding your headlight covers to a perfectly clear finish. This is what took the longest to accomplish. However, it only takes patients and alot of sandpaper.

The wiring was pretty straight forward and only took some time to make sure it was done correctly. You will have to creat a new lighting circuit for the Hellas as they are too high a draw for the stock wiring. It is also easier to creat a new circuit than to tap into the exhisting circuit without destroying your OEM connections, which you may need if you decide that the project is more than you can handle.

The total cost of my project was about 600 USD (guesstamate)
I am guessing that I'll sell the kit for +-200.

Most of the project will require you to have a working knowledge of the materials you will have to work with: body filler, fiberglass (minimal), painting, electrical wiring.

They are not a bolt in. I'd charge at least 1000 a pair for that.

I would like to find a way for everone to be able to have a set of projectors, but the process is just too time consuming to make the finshed product. It will also require that I buy just about every lamp that I can get my hands on. I'm sure you have all seen them on E-Bay selling for about 100 each. I also want ot make sure that I keep the consumer cost to a minimal and by selling the builders kit you are paying for as little of my high priced labor as you can get away with.

Anyway, enjoy the pics and I'll have more pics and info up soon.

PS on a side note; I am still considering building a ready to paint version without the lenses (you'll have to sand your own) for roughly 400. They will need final sanding, painting, wiring, and drilling for mounting to the car. Let me know if this interests you more and I'll decide wether I can sell enough to make it worth my time.

PSS, I don't check this board very often so please post all comments under the link above.

[Mnemonic]

tear, there there so so wonderful!!!!

::holds them in arm and rocks back and fourth like a little baby:::

[Mnemonic]

ah but you should put it on a new thread