Twin turbo KL

maldo · Post by **maldo** » December 13th, 2002, 2:05 am

Twin turbo KL power Commodore<A HREF="http://www.mx6.com/boardnew/showthread. ... adid=47406" TARGET=_blank>KL turbo</A>

David Coleman · Post by **David Coleman** » December 13th, 2002, 2:32 am

<A HREF="http://www.mx-3.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb. ... 3&t=000013" TARGET=_blank>http://www.mx-3.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb. ... =000013</A> Already ahead of ya, Chris

maldo · Post by **maldo** » December 13th, 2002, 3:06 am

Thought I'd give it a try...can't beat the king of the UBB

pelado · Post by **pelado** » December 13th, 2002, 9:22 am

Holy ****, Batman! 595 kw = 798 HP!!!!!Healthy looking crank dampener.Notice they dumped the cam belt tensioner for something a little more reliable, a turnbuckle with spherical rod ends.Adjustable timing sprockets too!The water pump pulley looks like it's missing. Reckon they be runnin' an electric pump?What are those lines coming out of the plenum? Never mind, looks like they're sensing lines for the wastegates.Six coils, I wonder what engine management system they're running?I like it but it looks like I can't afford it!

[ December 13, 2002: Message edited by: pelado ]

maldo · Post by **maldo** » December 13th, 2002, 12:45 pm

Since it is an Aussy company, my guess is a Tec or Haltech.

David Coleman · Post by **David Coleman** » December 13th, 2002, 4:58 pm

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by maldo: Since it is an Aussy company, my guess is a Tec or Haltech.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Actually it's a Motec M800. Big money system

maldo · Post by **maldo** » December 13th, 2002, 5:06 pm

I wouldn't even consider Motec as an option due to the fact that I would sell my soul to afford it.

ProtegeSTS · Post by **ProtegeSTS** » December 13th, 2002, 5:12 pm

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by pelado: The water pump pulley looks like it's missing. Reckon they be runnin' an electric pump?[ December 13, 2002: Message edited by: pelado ]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Being that it's also drysump, Id guess all the accessories are now electric.

pelado · Post by **pelado** » December 13th, 2002, 8:17 pm

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by ProtegeSTS: Being that it's also drysump, Id guess all the accessories are now electric.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I'd wager the drysump pumps are run off the crank.

ProtegeSTS · Post by **ProtegeSTS** » December 13th, 2002, 9:23 pm

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by pelado: I'd wager the drysump pumps are run off the crank.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>My point was more than if they went to the length of going drysump... not that they made the drysump electric as well...sorry the poor clarity of the post.[ December 13, 2002: Message edited by: ProtegeSTS ]

Ryencool · Post by **Ryencool** » December 13th, 2002, 11:13 pm

that just goes to show, with a deep pocket book, some knowledge , a goal, and alot of drive can produce. Says there seeking a alternate power source, dunno why youd want over 800hp

, but for a 2.5 liter thats amazing...

ProtegeSTS · Post by **ProtegeSTS** » December 13th, 2002, 11:28 pm

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Ryencool: that just goes to show, with a deep pocket book, some knowledge , a goal, and alot of drive can produce. Says there seeking a alternate power source, dunno why youd want over 800hp

, but for a 2.5 liter thats amazing...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>If you have REALLY deep pockets, you could have had 1500 hp from a 1.5L back in the 80's. You probably also knew some guy name Aryton at the time too... [img]shrug.gif"%20border="0[/img]

Guest · Post by **Guest** » December 14th, 2002, 3:28 am

so much for people thinkin that the KL series engines didnt have that much potential and that they can't handle boost.

pelado · Post by **pelado** » December 14th, 2002, 12:45 pm

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by ProtegeSTS: If you have REALLY deep pockets, you could have had 1500 hp from a 1.5L back in the 80's. You probably also knew some guy name Aryton at the time too... [img]shrug.gif"%20border="0[/img]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Good point. However, I believe this was only(!) 1000-1200HP and I believe Ayrton came on the scene at the end of the turbo era. The rules allowed for only 1.5L in turbo engines and 3.0L in N/A engines, guess which one won? The N/A cars only won if the turbo cars broke, which they did frequently. The only thing this proved is that a team of well financed engineers can always concoct a way to excel within a set of rules. Another example of this is the FIA made the tires narrower toward the late 90's to slow the cars down and lap times just kept going down![ December 14, 2002: Message edited by: pelado ]

ProtegeSTS · Post by **ProtegeSTS** » December 15th, 2002, 9:16 pm

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by pelado:
Good point. However, I believe this was only(!) 1000-1200HP and I believe Ayrton came on the scene at the end of the turbo era. The rules allowed for only 1.5L in turbo engines and 3.0L in N/A engines, guess which one won? The N/A cars only won if the turbo cars broke, which they did frequently. The only thing this proved is that a team of well financed engineers can always concoct a way to excel within a set of rules. Another example of this is the FIA made the tires narrower toward the late 90's to slow the cars down and lap times just kept going down![ December 14, 2002: Message edited by: pelado ]<hr></blockquote>
They were closer to 1500 hp during qualifying.

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