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KL home made block stiffner

Posted: February 4th, 2009, 8:13 pm
by 914klze
In case anyone was interested I've atached some pics of the block stiffner I've made. Let me know what you think good or bad.
Hmmm...?
I can't figure out how to attach pics.

Re: KL home made block stiffner

Posted: February 4th, 2009, 8:25 pm
by Flyer
You need to upload them somewhere...

Re: KL home made block stiffner

Posted: February 4th, 2009, 9:33 pm
by Robx1r
try photobucket its quick and very easy, i'm really interested in this

Re: KL home made block stiffner

Posted: February 5th, 2009, 1:02 am
by Ryan

Re: KL home made block stiffner

Posted: February 5th, 2009, 2:50 am
by fowljesse
I'm interested, and hope you put up pics soon, with an explanation.

Re: KL home made block stiffner

Posted: February 5th, 2009, 6:49 am
by 914klze
Thanks for the info. I'll put them up tonight when I get home.

Re: KL home made block stiffner

Posted: February 5th, 2009, 5:56 pm
by 914klze
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Re: KL home made block stiffner

Posted: February 5th, 2009, 6:06 pm
by onlytrueromeo
Cool! Never seen one of these before! What does it do? It looks like it doesn't quite fit - do you need to modify the heads to use this? Please explain how it works for those of us who've never seen one!

Re: KL home made block stiffner

Posted: February 5th, 2009, 6:50 pm
by fowljesse
That IS interesting. It seems like it would block cooling, and transfer heat, but if your engine was modified enough (for high revs, I assume) to need something like this, you're probably already considering an electric water pump, or other measure. Maybe Phenolic plastic would be better :shrug:
I haven't heard of a KL block flexing enough to need something like this, but I'm no KL expert!
I'm intersted in your other ideas, too!

Re: KL home made block stiffner

Posted: February 5th, 2009, 7:13 pm
by SmoothMX3
It's called a "Block Guard".
For people that don't know what it is... Google "Block Guard".
All the turbo guys use these when they are actually pushing decent numbers.

Re: KL home made block stiffner

Posted: February 5th, 2009, 7:42 pm
by 914klze
I chose the KL engine because of the split block style bottom end, much stronger and stiffer than traditional caps or girdles like the VG30 (Nissan 300Z). This bottom end should be able to handle 8000rpms and an easy 15lbs of boost. The top of the block on the other hand is open, as you know, which is good for cooling but allows the cylinders to vibrate at a higher frequency than the main block. during normal operation this is not a problem but under higher pressure the head gasket can get eaten by the cylinders and the block moving independently. The 300Z use a partially closed block, which good but it's cast iron = boat anchor.

The purpose of my Stiffener:
Prevent independent movement of cylinders
Minimize coolant restrictions - coolant passages matched to head gasket
Prevent cylinder from going out of round during deflagration

Next - I've some fun ideas for the turbo plumbing.

Re: KL home made block stiffner

Posted: February 5th, 2009, 7:52 pm
by onlytrueromeo
How much did that cost to make? So it doesn't interfere w/ the heads? Would you be able to make more of those?

Re: KL home made block stiffner

Posted: February 5th, 2009, 7:54 pm
by fowljesse
Nice machine work!

I'm assuming you're planning to put it in a Porsche 914. That would be awesome.. Mid engine turbo KL!

Re: KL home made block stiffner

Posted: February 5th, 2009, 9:24 pm
by 914klze
Ya, I plan on putting the KL with the Mazda Transaxle in a 914. I was planning on 400hp.

I used aluminum 6082 and had them cut with a water jet. I think I should test them thoroughly before I consider making more of them.

Re: KL home made block stiffner

Posted: February 5th, 2009, 9:49 pm
by onlytrueromeo
You should check this out too:

http://forums.probetalk.com/showthread. ... lock+guard" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The block posting thing looks cool!