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ive decided to post this in the forcedinduction section..anyway....i have a friend who just put an intcooler on his car yet he has no type of forced induction(turbo etc..)...i told him that it would not do anything...was i right or wrong because he swears he can feel the differnce???

what the hell is it cooling?! yes you are corect sir your friend dosn't know what he's talking about. and neither do I! what does he think he's cooling. an inercooler cools down exaust on a turbo before spiting back into the engine! i bet your friend drives a honda, damn honda kids!

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Ted:<BR><STRONG>what the hell is it cooling?! yes you are corect sir your friend dosn't know what he's talking about. and neither do I! what does he think he's cooling. an inercooler cools down exaust on a turbo before spiting back into the engine! i bet your friend drives a honda, damn honda kids! </STRONG><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P> Well then what would an intercooler on a supercharger cool off?? DUH!!! The air that is entering it! You might possibly see some differences but I think it is minimal.

a friend of mine has a starion intercooler on his n/a prelude and what he did was route his intake to the intercooler then to the manifold...what it does is that it cools down intake air a LOT before being shot through to the engine. think of it as a 'functional' cold-air intake. he dynoed and has a proven 8hp increase. dont say it cant be done. you wouldnt know unless you tried it first.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Ted:<BR><STRONG>an inercooler cools down exaust on a turbo before spiting back into the engine</STRONG><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>an i/c has no effect on the exhaust gases and the exhaust gases are not put back into the engine. <P>after re-reading this while i'm awake, i have to change my answer. like it's been said, there isn't enough velocity of the air intake to make it all the way through that length of pipe. it would choke off the engine. even if it did make it, there's no way it could create any amount of pressure to use the i/c effectively. the ONLY way i could justify ANY improvement would be to use a VERY small liquid intercooler with the shortest amount of piping possible. but there again, there would hardly be an improvement, if any. so in all....it's a waste of money.<p>[ September 12, 2002: Message edited by: cre8v mx3 ]

hmmm thanx guys..i guess i was wrong...again lol. hmmm time to buy an intercollor lol

yeah i figures ..that since u dont have a huge mass of air gong through it like u would if u had a turbo or SC then it wont work ..or will be soo little that u wont notice..ill let him know what i found out

personally I would denounce all possibility of it helping performance. Especially to 8whp. I hate to do it but Imma have to raise the bulls--- flag. You'd loose too much pressure goin thru the i/c. The engine would have to actually suck harder durring the intake stroke, reducing power, to get enuff air thru the i/c into the chamber.<p>[ September 11, 2002: Message edited by: VizualXTC ]

hmm mixed reviews...but im leaning toward the bullcrap fllag raising my self

Hmm..... This is complete BS. Starion intercooler huh? I got one on my Starion, but it at least has a turbo. I dont see how this could possibly add any hp at all. If he's using an air-to-air intercooler like the Starion's, then its not possible for him to cool down the air more than the outside ambient temp, which on an N/A car is what is sucked into the intake already. Your friend wasted his money on something like that. What is this world coming to? People putting IC's on cars that have no forced induction.... [img]shrug.gif"%20border="0[/img]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by VizualXTC:<BR><STRONG>personally I would denounce all possibility of it helping performance. Especially to 8whp. I hate to do it but Imma have to raise the bulls--- flag. You'd loose too much pressure goin thru the i/c. The engine would have to actually suck harder durring the intake stroke, reducing power, to get enuff air thru the i/c into the chamber.<P>[ September 11, 2002: Message edited by: VizualXTC ]</STRONG><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>damn when did we get the bs flag!?!

If there was a 100% effecient intercooler, it would bring the intake air to ambient. If you have a cold air intake, that's going to be sucking ambient temperature air in. So an intercooler is just going to be a restriction.<P>Note: Intercoolers on SC's are either after the compressor, or worthless. I can't recall seeing any that were precompressor ever. There's nothing to cool precompressor or NA. Period.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Sonicxtacy02:<BR><STRONG><P>damn when did we get the bs flag!?!</STRONG><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Sadly we don't have the BS flag. I had to link it to probetalk. But if in the future you would like to pull up the flag, just link the image to "http://probesport.extremespace.com/iB_h ... con_bs.gif"

i just found my new best friend <P><BR> <BR> <P>[ September 12, 2002: Message edited by: Sonicxtacy02 ]<p>[ September 12, 2002: Message edited by: Sonicxtacy02 ]

after doing some reasearch and listening to what you guys said i realize how stupid my reply sounded and would like to thank you two for corecting me, i now have a better understanding of turbo/super chargers sorry for being ignorant and thanks for the knowledge, <BR>tedleeper