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BPT ecu on a b6ze wire harness?

Posted: January 22nd, 2004, 2:13 pm
by Timmyd865
Hey guys....
Is it possible to use the BPT's ecu and plug it right into the b6ze's wireharness? Are they the same? Like could I just unplug the stock ecu and plug in the BPT's. Cause if that's possible that ECU would be a GREAT upgrade for a B6zet set up. That could keep the cost down considerably because the ECU is boost prepared and has the right maps for boost. So, if that would work you'd only hafta buy a b6t manifold and turbo, finish the exhaust, nab a nice intercooler and BOV, do sum pipe work, upgrade ur fuel pump and if you run LOW boost 5ish you should be fine! I'd think. If the BPT ECU works, it'd be a great cheap part for the project. What do you think?

Re: BPT ecu on a b6ze wire harness?

Posted: January 22nd, 2004, 2:25 pm
by cjthor
Different harness. It wont plug in.

Re: BPT ecu on a b6ze wire harness?

Posted: January 22nd, 2004, 3:59 pm
by OsoSlo z28
yeah, what he said.

plus you're talking about a different size motor w/different injector ratings.

Re: BPT ecu on a b6ze wire harness?

Posted: January 22nd, 2004, 6:43 pm
by Timmyd865
But the engine size prob. wouldn't matter much considering the outputs of each engine NA would be about the same due to the b6's high CR. BUT.. would the B6t's ecu hook up?? That'd prob. work great also! Thanx!

Re: BPT ecu on a b6ze wire harness?

Posted: January 23rd, 2004, 12:36 am
by Timmyd865
ALSO.. are there any thicker/more boost friendly head gaskets out there for the b6ze. I'm thinking of doing a CHEAP turbo kit here again! Thanx

Re: BPT ecu on a b6ze wire harness?

Posted: January 23rd, 2004, 12:48 pm
by qik_30x
hey,

apart from having differant plugs in the wiring harness, the bpt also uses a differant afm, distibuter, tps, knock sensors etc etc.

its the same story for the b6t ecu, it also uses a differant afm and distributer than the n/a b6 engines.

steve

Re: BPT ecu on a b6ze wire harness?

Posted: January 23rd, 2004, 3:25 pm
by Timmyd865
DANG IT :( So there's no easy solution at all to fuel control for a turbo :( is a RRFPR still a popular item to control fuel during boost? I know boostedmx usta do turbo mx-3's w/a RRFPR and that was the main thing he did for fuel and they ran fine. I'm trying to keep it cheap, and LOW boost. Just add simple power.

BTW... i was checking out car-parts.com and found...
b6t mani and turbo - 350
rx7 fuel pump - 65
mx6 intercooler (nice size) - 80
Mistu eclipse BOV's go for about 50 ebay
misc. pipes are about 200 at most
connecting the exhaust at shop/and flex pipe - 150
Misc. oil and coolant lines - 200 MOST?!?! No idea where to even start w/that though :(
RRFPR - 200
There's a VERY straight forward way to do it.. I THINK... if you keep the boost nice and low at least...
then add an ACT clutch for 300, and we're looking at - $1600, and I OVER estimated a lot of parts. I think that's a good price for a nice kit... whatcha think?

Re: BPT ecu on a b6ze wire harness?

Posted: January 24th, 2004, 8:15 am
by qik_30x
well, if you found a b6t ecu, injectors, wiring loom + all sensors, then you could probly use the ecu.

which reminds me, i have a b6t engine (pulled to bits) for sale. i can sell ya the turbo, manfold, all the sensors, inectors etc etc.

only problem is im in australia.

steve

Re: BPT ecu on a b6ze wire harness?

Posted: January 24th, 2004, 1:15 pm
by torpedan
Originally posted by Timmyd865:
ALSO.. are there any thicker/more boost friendly head gaskets out there for the b6ze. I'm thinking of doing a CHEAP turbo kit here again! Thanx
The stock head gasket is strong as hell to begin with. Plus the Cr of the motors are still boost friendly. As stated you can transfer everythign needed from one motor to another and make it run.

In our festiva we are using the festiva ecu harness and sensors to run my old DOHC mx3 motor.. and when we turbo it we will use the componets from a b6t in the same fashion

Re: BPT ecu on a b6ze wire harness?

Posted: January 28th, 2004, 3:15 pm
by Timmyd865
So.. now it just comes down to this... what's cheaper....
A. b6t's wiring harness/ecu/and almost anything attached to the harness

B. keeping the stock ECU, using a RRFPR, and upgraded injectors.

I think B is obviously gonna be cheaper and easier.. and considering i only want 5-7 psi... You wouldn't think it'd need much more! It just needs to give it more fuel when tehre's boost (RRFPR) and it's gotta be able to deliver that amount (injectors/fuel pump). Since it's low boost, I see no reason to go ALL OUT. If I were going for high boost on the stock internals (9-10), then I can see taking everything from the b6t over to it.. but.. considering my power goals and stuff.. the B route is probably better.

I want at least 160 at the crank... and 5 psi should EASILY deliever that when intercooled. With our "high" CR and small turbo.. the thing should spool up instantly and be a blast to drive on low boost. Anything over 8ish PSI on the rbh5 would be far out of effiency and produce too much heat for our high CR engine. So... is the B route good enough?!?!

Thanx!

Re: BPT ecu on a b6ze wire harness?

Posted: January 29th, 2004, 1:45 am
by Timmyd865
Did we decide that this is not a good place to tap into for ur oil supply? http://www.geocities.com/bat_elof/oilsupply.jpg I read a while ago that it's not high enogh pressure.. is that true? If so.. where's the currect spot to tap into uroil at? And how do u do it? Any pics? Thanx!