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Posted: February 27th, 2006, 9:38 pm
by Slammed6
where does your intake sit??

Posted: February 27th, 2006, 10:07 pm
by mr1in6billion
Driverside fenderwell, same as everyone else, right?

Posted: February 27th, 2006, 11:00 pm
by Slammed6
if its still under the hood there is no worries. There is no way water is going to go under the hood and over into that little corner, and if it "happens" to then there will definaely not be enough to harm anything.

Are people trying to drive under 5 ft of water or what??

Posted: February 27th, 2006, 11:06 pm
by mitmaks
good luck with it, I still wanna see your dyno sheet/time slip though

Posted: February 27th, 2006, 11:09 pm
by Slammed6
haha, no problem...i'm suppose to dyno my car again this wed...it was suppose to be today, but its raining too hard

Posted: February 27th, 2006, 11:10 pm
by MazdaManiacMx3
You don't necesarily need to be in 5 foot of water , The filter just needs to be somewhere where water aerodynamically flows , Say it you put your filter in a hoodscoop well chances are you will be screwed, Alot of people (escpecially in Hondas) put their intakes in the wheel well , and all the water off the tires gets sucked in ..
And as for the fact that it doesnt have the power to suck it take your filter off and put your hand on it and rev it .. well actually dont its kind of dangerous haha , but it will get sucked to the tube ..
Hopefully you won't have any problems .. Good luck ..
Kris

Posted: February 27th, 2006, 11:13 pm
by mitmaks
mine sits in fenderwell too. Had to relocate coolant overflow bottle. Granted filter got surface rust but it still works. I will go with newer intake whenever, and replace pos rubber boot that got bunch of holes in it.

Posted: February 27th, 2006, 11:16 pm
by Slammed6
You don't necesarily need to be in 5 foot of water , The filter just needs to be somewhere where water aerodynamically flows , Say it you put your filter in a hoodscoop well chances are you will be screwed, Alot of people (escpecially in Hondas) put their intakes in the wheel well , and all the water off the tires gets sucked in ..
And as for the fact that it doesnt have the power to suck it take your filter off and put your hand on it and rev it .. well actually dont its kind of dangerous haha , but it will get sucked to the tube ..
Hopefully you won't have any problems .. Good luck ..
No i understand, but the way "our" inatkes sit it is completey enclosed...its not exposed like a Honda CAI. A Honda CAI sits literally right by the tire. ours is in the enclosed "Box"

And if some water gets sucked in to the filter, then the water will disapate before going in tt the engine cause of the heat. Unless its a rediculous amount of water.

And like i said, and you said. Let the car idle and put your hand over the intake and tell me what happens...the car dies. Yeah if u rev the car that will definately probably hurt you hand..lol. But as i said u really have to be gassing the s--- outta it in the water to suck it up.

I'm just saying just cause i have my CAI like this it does not mean i will blow my engine...just drive cautious. Nothing to hard.

Posted: February 28th, 2006, 12:47 am
by mr1in6billion
Okay, so I chickened out. I'm broke as hell and I can't afford to have any of my cars break down, so I drove my van.

As for my mx. I tried to start it much much earlier in the day durring a short break in the rain. It started, but not happily. It sounded a little choked, much like it you start your car without your maf plugged in. That cleared up after a second or two, but the rpms had dropped down to 700 as soon as the starter cut out, and it idled there. Considering I hadn't driven the car in a day and it had been sitting in the cold, thats a pretty low idle at start up. The filter was probly damp and was heavily restricting the air flow.

PICTURE TIME.. WOOO.

Heres what I meant earlier. The fenderwells of are cars are enclosed, so water comming up isn't a bit deal. Even if you cut it open it is still protected in front (by the bumper, if it's a stock bumper) on the side (by the fender) and in back (by that black plastic). So i'm not scared of that. But I noticed water (or at least condensation) was getting in though the sides of the hood.

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I don't have a picture of the full right side of the engine bay so your going to have to remember your Mr Roger days and just pretend.

As water drips down the side bevel on the fender it accumulates to the point that it flows over the side and down into fenderwell. Durring its waterfall of flight some of the water lands on the filter. My filter faces down, so it slowly bunches up on the rubber top of the filter before overflowing and absorbing into the filter itself. THE END.


Thats my story. It doesn't have a conclusion really, but as curious as I am, I am to scared of the outcome to find out.



On a side note, what is needed to clear up hydro lock. How much water is needed to cause hydro lock. I've heard it's bad and expensive, but i've never actually seen it discussed.

Posted: February 28th, 2006, 12:56 am
by Slammed6
i follow what ur saying, but thats pretty hard for that whole little delima to play out and then happen to fall on ur filter rather than just drip and roll down the side and puddle on the bottom of the enclosed area. But better safe then sorry, i just decide to take my 1 in a million chance.