KL-ZE 1/4mile times in MX-3

[Smokin mx-3]

are you guys using 2.5 tranny or mx-3 tranny<BR>I'm using 2.5 northamerican ecu are you guys using a jspec ecu<BR>why is my mph higher yet my time is slower then yours?<BR>[ July 28, 2002: Message edited by: Smokin mx-3 ]<p>[ July 28, 2002: Message edited by: Smokin mx-3 ]

[KNOCKOUT]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by curtklze:<BR><STRONG><BR>also, my KL-ZE is stock(except for a el-prototypes ECU), stock air box, stock exhaust and it made 156H.P. at the wheels with the intake manifold blazing hot.<P>if you are running the stock 1.8 ecu than I would guess your H.P would be about 145-150 hot.<P>so a 15.1-15.3 1/4 mile time sounds about right.</STRONG><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I'm actually running the EL-Prototypes (Corksport) ecu as well. <P>So it sounds like what you're running is pretty close to what I'm running except for that I have a custom 2.5" exhaust w/high flow custom cat; and you got 156hp to the wheels? That sounds kind of on the low side for an engine that's supposed to be putting out 197-200hp, especially with the Corksport ecu which is supposed to add 7whp as well.<P>So by me expecting between 165-170whp after I dyno, would you think I'm high-ballin'? I'm basing that on a 15-20% drivetrain loss factor.

[David Coleman]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by KNOCKOUT:<BR><STRONG><BR>So by me expecting between 165-170whp after I dyno, would you think I'm high-ballin'? I'm basing that on a 15-20% drivetrain loss factor.</STRONG><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P><BR>That's about right for a KLZE. Using the stock exhaust is choking the ZE, no doubt. But at least it's quiet <BR> <BR>Blue curve is a stock KLDE in a Probe GT MTX [135whp @ 5600RPM, 134 ft lbs @ 4800RPM]. <BR>The Red curve is a KLDE with headers, intake, and exhaust [151whp @ 5600RPM, 152 ft lbs @ 4900RPM]. <BR>The Green curve is a KLZE running an ECU from a KLDE; very different VRIS poitns as shown by the dips in the curves @ the KLDE VRIS poitns [172whp @ 5900RPM, 160 ft lbs @ 5000RPM].

[KNOCKOUT]

Ah ok, that's more of what I expected. I'm wondering what kind of numbers I'll be putting out with the 2.5" exhaust and reprogrammed ecu? I'm expecting to see a bit more hp at a higher rpm (ecu), but probably slightly less torque because of the exhaust.<P>Thanks Dave

[Smokin mx-3]

hey gabi I'm going to st thomas this friday wondering if you could meet me there

[mx3nut]

I'm running stock tranny, 1.8intake manifold, and stock rims/tires(with like 30% thread. stock muffler. <BR>ran 14.675@92.49<BR>My goal for next time 14.5...going to the track tomorrow

[mx3nut]

ohh yea...i have KL-ZE ECU

[Hex3]

I think most of the time a Kl-ZE will run around low 14's. alot deppends on the driver alot.....

[KNOCKOUT]

Traction is the name of the game with this setup. <P>I ran my buddy'd ITR and on my first and only run I got a 14.7.......moral of the story...those cars are easy to drive compared to our KL-ZE equiped MX-3's because of the much less torque they put out, which isn't that much of a bad thing.

[David Coleman]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by KNOCKOUT:<BR><STRONG>Traction is the name of the game with this setup. </STRONG><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>That's where I'm hoping the 4.11 gears are going to help me. We'll soon see...

[KNOCKOUT]

What are the stock 1.8 tranny gear ratios? Where are you getting the 4.11's from?

[RayRay]

Dave is talking about the final drive ratio, which is the gear ratio of the differential. The mx3 and mx6 have the same gear ratios for all 5 gears. The only difference is the final drive ratio, the mx3 having the 4.388 and the mx6 with 4.111. The 4.111 gives better gas mileage and blunts the acceleration a bit, which can help traction.

[curtklze]

<P>this is my car with stock exhaust and no cold air intake system, or cooling down the intake manifold.