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Originally posted by NewType2003:
lol.. damn Derek,i totally AGREE. Not trying to start up an arguement but....DAMN GUYS!?!?!? you guys FLAME..and yes totally BURN someone that is trying to make a kit for us.. then you cry

Listen to yourself when it comes to whining and crying, People were asked their opinions on a kind of body kit. We have just as much right to want something less aggressive and stylish as you have the right to drive an aggressive rice mobile. Craigs ideas are great and everybody appreciates them, and by reading other posts many people are showing interest in the kits he's producing therefore I think he has no reason to "bug out" as you put it. I agree with other people I like the mazda speed front bumper, I think it adds style without looking like a monstrosity and if "Craig wishes to have a great relationship with us MX owners" then when he askes a question about bodykit styles he should be prepared to hear different responses and hearing what other people would like to see in the future is a part of buisness, I'm sure he see's this and thats why he contunues to give input into the inquires and if a few narrow minded people (like yourself) can't see beyond one set style then they should save they're "stupid *** coments and bug out to another post were they're opinion has some relevance.
...no one is ungratefull and I think your a little off with the comment of "disagreeing means we totally disrespect a person" A comment like that would make me think your either the most compliant person i've ever heard of or just stupid. I have an opinion, you have an opinion, other people have other opinions, unfortunately Craig has to weed through them and decide which is best for him but he assumed that responsibility when he went into buisness and I don't think he needs you to act like a big brother and scold all of us "disrespecting" people about something you really have no clue what your talking about. Next time you should probably write your opinion down on paper read it back to yourself realize how unthoughtout and hypocritical your argument is and throw it away and move on to the next post.
Keep up the good work Craig and dispite what this guy says everyone appreciates what your doing for the car.

yeah, i understand what u want. right, MS sideskirts r just caps. sometimes i think they r boring. OEM ones r ok, but just hard to find(also pricey). i'm also not looking for something too aggressive. anyway, for the front, the MS front is still up for my choice.
btw, i'd like to see some idea too, and did i hear somebody say about CF things? that might be interesting!!

lol.. look guys maybe it sounded like i tried to put out an arguement but i really didnt.Fair enough everyone has there opinions. Maybe it's just me <~~ or i dont know that, sometimes it seems when something tries to go good it goes bad when someone posts about...it's too low, it's to big of a lip,... it sucks, you know? well like again i say sorry if i offended anyone.. just got of the subject a little. we all know that there's not a wide variety of products for us, just didnt want to see that disappear. Fair enough?

Yeah Wil! Here, here...

11 years after the MX-3 went into production, and despite the fact that the MX-3 has gained more aftermarket attention in recent years, there STILL is not a mild aftermarket kit for this car... and that's unbelieveable.

If Onderground Design hadn't made the MP5 bumper so aggressive, I would have it on my car now. That is what most of us wanted when it was being designed. But instead Onderground decided to give it huge combat lips, which made it too aggresive and too low to the ground if your car is lowered any more than 1".

I also drive a ton of miles per year and need something that will hold up. I simply cannot understand why a mild kit has not been produced for the MX-3 (aside from the MS bumper which is nice IMO, but has been around for 10 years). If anyone here could get something started, I for one would support it.

If we can get a nice new, practical kit created (and PLEASE, some kind of projector headlight kit - I am hating the stock ones more and more by the day)... then we could finally bring the MX-3 up to date.

Just my 2 cents.

<small>[ November 19, 2003, 12:25 PM: Message edited by: 2.5mx3 ]</small>

K, I have the Pak front, Probably the lowest bumper out there and my car is lowered 2inches and it doesn;t scrap and i do have to be careful, plus i drive this bad boy in the winter....i repeat CANADIAN WINTERS!!! IM sayin get used to it.....

Why would a company make a kit that didn't lower the look of a car???? unless is a OEM kit...which we have.

I just don't think that's its goin happen, if someone does decide to make a kit that won't make the car lower to the ground, than great for you and all the other drivers that can't handle a little bit of a lower car, but my advice, UNDERSTAND that if your goin buy a Body Kit for any make of car, YOUR NOT goin find one that your lookin for.....personally I wouldn't want it, why spend a thousand dollars on a kit that makes your car pretty much look the same???

Remeber this : BOdy kits were made to improve areo dynamics of the car..meaning they would to be lower than the stock body....

All in all, go ahead and try and ask a company to make a style kit, but i would guess that hardly no one would buy it ..... but good luck bro, if we can get more aftermarket accessories for our sexy car, than I'm all for it brotha! lol

later and good luck

Originally posted by DVH:

Remeber this : BOdy kits were made to improve areo dynamics of the car..meaning they would to be lower than the stock body....

there is no kit that will improve the areo dynamics for our car cause to make one that will it takes many hours of windtunnle testing

it will make your car look better and lower but won't make your faster

theres one kit for the rsx thats wind tunnel tested and it cost about $4000 cnd( i forget what company) and it gives like 40% more downforce

<small>[ November 19, 2003, 03:01 PM: Message edited by: Marlon ]</small>

Originally posted by DVH:
K, I have the Pak front, Probably the lowest bumper out there and my car is lowered 2inches and it doesn;t scrap and i do have to be careful, plus i drive this bad boy in the winter....i repeat CANADIAN WINTERS!!! IM sayin get used to it.....

Why would a company make a kit that didn't lower the look of a car???? unless is a OEM kit...which we have.

I just don't think that's its goin happen, if someone does decide to make a kit that won't make the car lower to the ground, than great for you and all the other drivers that can't handle a little bit of a lower car, but my advice, UNDERSTAND that if your goin buy a Body Kit for any make of car, YOUR NOT goin find one that your lookin for.....personally I wouldn't want it, why spend a thousand dollars on a kit that makes your car pretty much look the same???

Remeber this : BOdy kits were made to improve areo dynamics of the car..meaning they would to be lower than the stock body....

All in all, go ahead and try and ask a company to make a style kit, but i would guess that hardly no one would buy it ..... but good luck bro, if we can get more aftermarket accessories for our sexy car, than I'm all for it brotha! lol

later and good luck

Where to start. First of all, I'm not saying it isn't hard to NOT destroy a low bumper, but the fact that they are fiberglass and lower to the ground is the reason I wouldn't buy it.

Why? You stated already "why buy a $1000 if it looks mild". Well, do you want stock bumpers on your car? I don't either, I want something more agressive, while not being overly agressive. I don't want to spend $1000 on a kit, another $1000 for paint to only crack the front, sides or rear a month later. That becomes insnanely expensive to repair, and defeats the purpose of buying a kit in the first place.

And you are also saying "if it isn't low to the ground, it won't look good" Why the hell won't it look good? The MS bumper looks good does it not? it isn't all that low, maybe anohter 1" lower than stock. Tehre are SO MANY designs that could be integrated into a front and rear that would look 2x better than the boring stock bumper, don't you agree?

I think most everyone else thinks it is possible, and I know that on other cars, like the Nissan Sentras, all Hondas have cool looking OEM height kits like the Mugen stuff, Stillen kits among others. Owners of these cars do NOT have to accept and understand the risks involved because companies MAKE kits for their car that aren't impractical for daily-driven use.

And I rarely have seen a bodykit designed to help the downforce and to improve the wind resistance to a car. About 98% of the kits on the market today are strictly to help improve the appearance of the car.

<small>[ November 19, 2003, 03:45 PM: Message edited by: Gro Harlem ]</small>

Oh, and I just wanted to say, that I think Aerogear has amazing talents in designing bodykits and performing bodywork. They were able to design the drift kit in a very short time period, and truthfully, I think it is the best looking kit out for the MX3 today. I can't wait to see the finished rear bumper!

I really would buy this kit if it was 2" higher in the front. The skirts look a bit higher than the front by looking at the pictures and look to be an ideal height for daily driven use.

Originally posted by DVH:


I drive my car all you round in Barrie,ONtario , Canada and we get a sh*t load of snow in the winter, you buy a kit, u HAVE TO understand that you have to drive more carefully, if you don't wanna drive carefully then buy a sh*t box and drive like a maniac! or DON'T A BUY A BODY KIT

lates

Fu*king right! DVH just summed it up...
ps. 30,000miles in one year isn't a lot.

ive worked with custom bumpers before and i know from experience that if you try to modify an existing bumper so that it has more ground clearance (IE cutting about 2" from the center and molding halfs together), then the bumper will not flow and you will be able to tell its been cut.. especially the drift bumper where most of its looks are dependant on the height of the thing. (what i mean is if you cut off 2" of material from the center area, the angle will be damaged and wont be smooth. except it'll look like a thick mass on the top half, and then immediately a smaller mass on the bottom half and you try to mold it together) there are ways to do it the right way, however. you can make a mold which is smaller than the stock bumper, however you'd have to make the mold by hand/scratch. this also raises the price in the bumper. i think their skirts were tooken off another car which is why it appears higher than the drift bumper.

basically if you want it done right, you'll have to do it yourself.

The problem is a lot of these bodykit companies either:

1. Design and make the bumper with a car that is stock height. So most people that are putting these bumpers on lowered cars often run into problems. A classic example of this would be the Pakfeifer MX-3 bumper. It was designed for a stock mx-3 height, it is no where even closely near practical on a lowered mx-3.

2. Some bodykit companies design simply for show so they make it as low as possible as they can. They don't care or take into consideration you might use it for daily driving use.

As a side note though,

If your mx-3 is lowered 2" or more, the only practical bumper is the Mazdaspeed style bumper from Corksport or Erubini.

And even then you will scrap sometimes.

spoilers ect. is what you want

i like the oem front lip, oem sides and rear mud guards. they look nice when combined and they make the car seem a little lower i want to get the front and the sides but no one seems to want to sell them lol. IE. scrap yards

Hey Gro Harlem--

Why dont you just get the Topmix Front lip-- that will solve your problem and look awesome as well. Top Quality, Nice & Simple, yet aggressive.

I wish I could get one.

Also-- Where did your "Tech projects" webpages go?? I really liked them!