How to explain water in the doors ?

General Mazda MX-3 Discussions
mars
Regular Member
Posts: 59
Joined: June 29th, 2009, 5:20 am
antispam: No
Location: France
Contact:

How to explain water in the doors ?

Post by mars »

when i got my car i'd a look at the sound system ...

Image
Image

and when it rains i've got water ont the plastic at the botom of the door :
(not my car)
Image
at the bottom of the picture there's a grey plate... water is here when it rains ...
so i think water is from outside to inside sliding on the speaker... but how does it manage to get on ?

I hope you've got ideas ... because i don't want to fit my new front speakers before getting a solution ;)
User avatar
muttpower
Regular Member
Posts: 326
Joined: May 19th, 2009, 1:00 pm
antispam: No
Location: Fort Campbell, KY
Contact:

Re: How to explain water in the doors ?

Post by muttpower »

Most likely, water is getting inside from the rubber seals around the door, and the window seals as well. These are prone to failure on any vehicle if they aren't properly maintained. A simple wipe down with some armor all whenever you clean your interior(or at least once every 3 months) will do wonders for the life of these rubber parts.
1992 MX3 GS (My Project Toy)
K8DE, see web site...too many mods to list, but still growing.
2006 Dodge Durango (The Family-Mobile)
Every time you race a Honda Civic, a kitten kills a retard.
User avatar
93vtecklr
Regular Member
Posts: 924
Joined: March 23rd, 2009, 12:10 am
Location: Red Deer, Alberta

Re: How to explain water in the doors ?

Post by 93vtecklr »

I am not sure if you have it in france, but the product is called "Armor-All", they have a whole line of cleaners and protectants. I'd use something else though, sometimes the chemicals in Armor-All actually degrade the surface. I used to work at a detail shop a while ago, and a girl brought her car back after I had detailed it with armor-all because her dash was peeling!
Image
1993 Blaze Red SE, 17" blackie's, b+m sts, 45 deg 3" exh pipe/intake tube, K8ZE, aftmkt probe headers, magnaflow hi-cat, all 2.5" piping, magnaflow muffler.
1976 Datsun 620 p/u, full airride, Firestone 2600`s, 16ga fuel cell, Optima yellow top, AZ compressor, custom tubular frame with 9in step notch, 18" 100 spokes
1955 Willys Overland 4x4 P/U, '78 LT1 350 cu.in, fully restored.
User avatar
Mad Cow
Regular Member
Posts: 987
Joined: October 1st, 2008, 10:32 pm
Location: Toronto, Ontario

Re: How to explain water in the doors ?

Post by Mad Cow »

I have that exact same problem, what I figured out was that the rubber seal that's supposed to press against the outside of the window doesn't. So water slides down into the door. There are little holes in the bottom of the door that hold clips that hold the rubber seal to the door. A few of these clips were missing in my car and the water got through the holes. Mine got so bad that the rear window rails pretty much rusted through and now the window rattles.

I still have no idea how to fix this though.
KLZE-ed '94 RS/'92 GS hybrid -- It's complicated :lol: -- Now somebody's winter beater
1999 Audi A4 2.8Q -- New ride
mars
Regular Member
Posts: 59
Joined: June 29th, 2009, 5:20 am
antispam: No
Location: France
Contact:

Re: How to explain water in the doors ?

Post by mars »

Mad Cow wrote:I have that exact same problem, what I figured out was that the rubber seal that's supposed to press against the outside of the window doesn't. So water slides down into the door. There are little holes in the bottom of the door that hold clips that hold the rubber seal to the door. A few of these clips were missing in my car and the water got through the holes. Mine got so bad that the rear window rails pretty much rusted through and now the window rattles.

I still have no idea how to fix this though.
find new rubber :(
too expensive !
User avatar
muttpower
Regular Member
Posts: 326
Joined: May 19th, 2009, 1:00 pm
antispam: No
Location: Fort Campbell, KY
Contact:

Re: How to explain water in the doors ?

Post by muttpower »

New weather seals (rubber) from the factory costs an arm for a partial kit, and a leg + your first born for a full kit....or they'll settle for a couple hundred dollars.
1992 MX3 GS (My Project Toy)
K8DE, see web site...too many mods to list, but still growing.
2006 Dodge Durango (The Family-Mobile)
Every time you race a Honda Civic, a kitten kills a retard.
mars
Regular Member
Posts: 59
Joined: June 29th, 2009, 5:20 am
antispam: No
Location: France
Contact:

Re: How to explain water in the doors ?

Post by mars »

muttpower wrote:New weather seals (rubber) from the factory costs an arm for a partial kit, and a leg + your first born for a full kit....or they'll settle for a couple hundred dollars.
i didn't know you had also this expression !
but getting it as used part won't make a better work ! is there anyway ?
mars
Regular Member
Posts: 59
Joined: June 29th, 2009, 5:20 am
antispam: No
Location: France
Contact:

Re: How to explain water in the doors ?

Post by mars »

93vtecklr wrote:I am not sure if you have it in france, but the product is called "Armor-All", they have a whole line of cleaners and protectants. I'd use something else though, sometimes the chemicals in Armor-All actually degrade the surface. I used to work at a detail shop a while ago, and a girl brought her car back after I had detailed it with armor-all because her dash was peeling!
unfortunatly we don't have it ! i'll look for an equivalent.
User avatar
93vtecklr
Regular Member
Posts: 924
Joined: March 23rd, 2009, 12:10 am
Location: Red Deer, Alberta

Re: How to explain water in the doors ?

Post by 93vtecklr »

I don't use it anymore. Too much mess. I would recommend Meguiars, or Mother's. If you have leather in your car, definately Mother's. It is more expensive but in the end, it saves you time, and the result is so much better.
Image
1993 Blaze Red SE, 17" blackie's, b+m sts, 45 deg 3" exh pipe/intake tube, K8ZE, aftmkt probe headers, magnaflow hi-cat, all 2.5" piping, magnaflow muffler.
1976 Datsun 620 p/u, full airride, Firestone 2600`s, 16ga fuel cell, Optima yellow top, AZ compressor, custom tubular frame with 9in step notch, 18" 100 spokes
1955 Willys Overland 4x4 P/U, '78 LT1 350 cu.in, fully restored.
mars
Regular Member
Posts: 59
Joined: June 29th, 2009, 5:20 am
antispam: No
Location: France
Contact:

Re: How to explain water in the doors ?

Post by mars »

93vtecklr wrote:I don't use it anymore. Too much mess. I would recommend Meguiars, or Mother's. If you have leather in your car, definately Mother's. It is more expensive but in the end, it saves you time, and the result is so much better.
and you pout meguiars product on the rubber ?
User avatar
93vtecklr
Regular Member
Posts: 924
Joined: March 23rd, 2009, 12:10 am
Location: Red Deer, Alberta

Re: How to explain water in the doors ?

Post by 93vtecklr »

They do have a vinyl/rubber compound
Image
1993 Blaze Red SE, 17" blackie's, b+m sts, 45 deg 3" exh pipe/intake tube, K8ZE, aftmkt probe headers, magnaflow hi-cat, all 2.5" piping, magnaflow muffler.
1976 Datsun 620 p/u, full airride, Firestone 2600`s, 16ga fuel cell, Optima yellow top, AZ compressor, custom tubular frame with 9in step notch, 18" 100 spokes
1955 Willys Overland 4x4 P/U, '78 LT1 350 cu.in, fully restored.
User avatar
Mad Cow
Regular Member
Posts: 987
Joined: October 1st, 2008, 10:32 pm
Location: Toronto, Ontario

Re: How to explain water in the doors ?

Post by Mad Cow »

Can you actually take that rubber off? I've tried a bit on junkyard cars and couldn't find a way.
KLZE-ed '94 RS/'92 GS hybrid -- It's complicated :lol: -- Now somebody's winter beater
1999 Audi A4 2.8Q -- New ride
mars
Regular Member
Posts: 59
Joined: June 29th, 2009, 5:20 am
antispam: No
Location: France
Contact:

Re: How to explain water in the doors ?

Post by mars »

Mad Cow wrote:Can you actually take that rubber off? I've tried a bit on junkyard cars and couldn't find a way.
I think it's possible to take them off but will it be still possible to undo ?
Dark_Rider2k3
Regular Member
Posts: 1603
Joined: March 6th, 2007, 1:17 pm
Location: Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania (USA)

Re: How to explain water in the doors ?

Post by Dark_Rider2k3 »

I think you have to actually take the door off to get it completely off.
User avatar
Mad Cow
Regular Member
Posts: 987
Joined: October 1st, 2008, 10:32 pm
Location: Toronto, Ontario

Re: How to explain water in the doors ?

Post by Mad Cow »

Dark_Rider2k3 wrote:I think you have to actually take the door off to get it completely off.
Why? There's no part that goes anywhere near the hinges. Maybe other people are talking about a different piece, but I'm talking about the pieces that press against the window at the bottom of the window opening.
KLZE-ed '94 RS/'92 GS hybrid -- It's complicated :lol: -- Now somebody's winter beater
1999 Audi A4 2.8Q -- New ride
Post Reply

Return to “General Mazda MX-3”