Megasquirt with Coilpacks...getting close?!
- marcdh
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Megasquirt with Coilpacks...getting close?!
I am getting fuel and spark, but assumably not in the right order.
Setup:
ford cougar/mondeo v6 coilpack with bracket bolted securely to an old disty
disty removed
ground lead added from coilpack to battery
ground off tooth on crank as per diagram
What works:
Spark
Fuel
RPM getting 200+ whilst cranking
Getting 13-14 volts at coilpack power
Getting .2v pulses to each coil
Getting spark out of wires
The MS to Coilpack leads are definately in the right order. I'm quite sure now the HT leads are right now. My batterys getting very low though I've made a few datalogs.
DATALOG:
http://marcharrington.com/mx3/megasquirt/coilpack3.xls
MSQ:
http://marcharrington.com/mx3/megasquirt/KL-NA-.msq
I can't seem to find the "Wheel decoder is 024s9 style" at the bottom of my wheel decoder page. Is this the issue or is this obsolete? All I have is "Dual Dizzy" which I have set to normal and Generic Wheel in the codebase menu.
It sounds like its almost starting. Does the grouping of injectors matter? Mine are:
Group1/Black MS lead: 1 2 6
Group2/Red MS lead: 3 4 5
Setup:
ford cougar/mondeo v6 coilpack with bracket bolted securely to an old disty
disty removed
ground lead added from coilpack to battery
ground off tooth on crank as per diagram
What works:
Spark
Fuel
RPM getting 200+ whilst cranking
Getting 13-14 volts at coilpack power
Getting .2v pulses to each coil
Getting spark out of wires
The MS to Coilpack leads are definately in the right order. I'm quite sure now the HT leads are right now. My batterys getting very low though I've made a few datalogs.
DATALOG:
http://marcharrington.com/mx3/megasquirt/coilpack3.xls
MSQ:
http://marcharrington.com/mx3/megasquirt/KL-NA-.msq
I can't seem to find the "Wheel decoder is 024s9 style" at the bottom of my wheel decoder page. Is this the issue or is this obsolete? All I have is "Dual Dizzy" which I have set to normal and Generic Wheel in the codebase menu.
It sounds like its almost starting. Does the grouping of injectors matter? Mine are:
Group1/Black MS lead: 1 2 6
Group2/Red MS lead: 3 4 5
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- marcdh
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Re: Megasquirt with Coilpacks...getting close?!
Update:
Looks like I'm not getting enough fuel. I can smell it, but wideband is showing lean (17). Argh...
Looks like I'm not getting enough fuel. I can smell it, but wideband is showing lean (17). Argh...
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Mx-3 2.5 V6 Turbo 291 BHP 251 lbft @ 8psi - Retired due to rust and back at uni
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- WhiteFinish
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Re: Megasquirt with Coilpacks...getting close?!
Could you make a write up from this when you're finished??
I'd love to see more !!
I'd love to see more !!
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Re: Megasquirt with Coilpacks...getting close?!
For sure. It's been a complete nightmare for me, I'd like to make it easier for others.
UPDATE:
Plugs are wet with fuel, obviously plenty of it. Either somethings seriously outta time or spark isn't right. Argh.
-I am getting spark through all 6 HT leads
-I am getting fuel in all cylinders to the extent of flooding
-I appear to be getting ok rpm and other inputs
I was thinking the firing was wrong so started working through it with my Dad.
We got cylinder 1 firing regularly
Added 3 and 5, seemed like at least one of them was firing
Started adding even bank plug and got nothing.
Reverted back to the known working cylinder 1 and it has now stopped working
Seems a bit erratic, after that the plugs were all wet again. Did the flood clear, tried again and nothing. I'm pretty sure my tooth is well ground down, like it's really low.
UPDATE:
Plugs are wet with fuel, obviously plenty of it. Either somethings seriously outta time or spark isn't right. Argh.
-I am getting spark through all 6 HT leads
-I am getting fuel in all cylinders to the extent of flooding
-I appear to be getting ok rpm and other inputs
I was thinking the firing was wrong so started working through it with my Dad.
We got cylinder 1 firing regularly
Added 3 and 5, seemed like at least one of them was firing
Started adding even bank plug and got nothing.
Reverted back to the known working cylinder 1 and it has now stopped working
Seems a bit erratic, after that the plugs were all wet again. Did the flood clear, tried again and nothing. I'm pretty sure my tooth is well ground down, like it's really low.
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Mx-3 2.5 V6 Turbo 291 BHP 251 lbft @ 8psi - Retired due to rust and back at uni
View Worklog

Mx-3 2.5 V6 Turbo 291 BHP 251 lbft @ 8psi - Retired due to rust and back at uni
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- fowljesse
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Re: Megasquirt with Coilpacks...getting close?!
Forge ahead, pioneer!
That's great!
I wish you Go n-eiri an t-adh leat.
(Good luck)
That's great!
I wish you Go n-eiri an t-adh leat.
(Good luck)
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Re: Megasquirt with Coilpacks...getting close?!
Update:
Removed coilpacks
Restored Dizzy
Soldered 3 coilpack outputs into dizzy ignition trigger
Tried to start it - no signs of starting
I noticed the RPM is very jerky, like it updates only once a second. Is that normal? I then adjusted the two screws on the grey pots, (part of the conditioning circuit) now I have NO RPM signal! I'm going to solder a wire direct from the MS RPM input to my VR sensor so wiring cannot be at fault. Man this sucks!
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Mx-3 2.5 V6 Turbo 291 BHP 251 lbft @ 8psi - Retired due to rust and back at uni
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Re: Megasquirt with Coilpacks...getting close?!
I think hppwdn is running coilpacks. Ask him how he got them going.
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Re: Megasquirt with Coilpacks...getting close?!
Is it flodded again??
Maybe your injectors (rings) are worn out
Maybe your injectors (rings) are worn out
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Re: Megasquirt with Coilpacks...getting close?!
Bah I don't know. I've got work on Monday so I think I'll have to revert back to stock tomorrow
totally weak. I've never been beaten by anything like this but I will have to conceed for now. Big thanks to Andy for all the help though 
AZ-3 1498cc Turbo! EVO 8 turbo and manifold, 5 stud swap, SSR Type C, DIYPNP seq Megasquirt
Mx-3 2.5 V6 Turbo 291 BHP 251 lbft @ 8psi - Retired due to rust and back at uni
View Worklog

Mx-3 2.5 V6 Turbo 291 BHP 251 lbft @ 8psi - Retired due to rust and back at uni
View Worklog

- marcdh
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Re: Megasquirt with Coilpacks...getting close?!
Here it is with full toothed pulley on MSnS mode

Here it is with full toothed pulley on MSnS mode AND INVERTED the two wires of the VR sensor!

You can see the second is much more sensible...BUT Megasquirt kept resetting every few cranks... So has my backwards OEM harness been the issue? I always noticed everywhere said it's always the ?blue? wire for signal, but mine was the opposite?

Here it is with full toothed pulley on MSnS mode AND INVERTED the two wires of the VR sensor!

You can see the second is much more sensible...BUT Megasquirt kept resetting every few cranks... So has my backwards OEM harness been the issue? I always noticed everywhere said it's always the ?blue? wire for signal, but mine was the opposite?
AZ-3 1498cc Turbo! EVO 8 turbo and manifold, 5 stud swap, SSR Type C, DIYPNP seq Megasquirt
Mx-3 2.5 V6 Turbo 291 BHP 251 lbft @ 8psi - Retired due to rust and back at uni
View Worklog

Mx-3 2.5 V6 Turbo 291 BHP 251 lbft @ 8psi - Retired due to rust and back at uni
View Worklog
